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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Originally Posted By: Rocketman

BV3-OQ6-CC5 = $1,336 for a 12 bore shotgun.

Dangerous game rifles seem to value at about 4X shotguns. 4X $1336 = $5,344. Sorry that this number will be disappointing to you.


I think rarity pushes the price higher than that....if the gun was a 12 bore shotgun the value would be closer to 2 grande on the low end to 4 grande on the high end (based on condition)...."$1336" if it was a 12 bore shotgun is kinda absurd in my opinion.

If it was a 12 bore and we used my low estimate of $2000 x 4 = $8000....


I think my estimate is closer to reality.

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Joe, in the world of gun description, acronym and shorthand and terms particular to firearms abound.

SLE - sidelock ejector
SLNE - sidelock non-ejector
BLE - boxlock ejector
BLNE - boxlock non-ejector

All hammer guns I have seen are sidelocks; i.e., A type of action on a break-open gun where the lockwork (hammer, sear, mainspring etc.) is mounted to the back side (inside) of a plate (or pair of plates for a double gun).

Other actions would be boxlock or trigger plate, and www.hallowellco.com has the best description of these terms in the "Firearms Dictionary" on its site.

Regards, Tim

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The top lever should add a premium to this gun.

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Undated but pre-motorcar


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I don't know about Double Rifles but box lock & trigger plate hammer shotguns have both been made so "ALL" hammer shotguns are not sidelocks.


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Miller, my comment about hammer guns as sidelocks clearly referred just to those "I have seen." Your remark is informative, as usual, but the snide quotes around "All" is unworthy of you.

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Tim;
I didn't mean it to be snidey. Many, many year ago in elementary school English we were taught there "Are Exceptions to All Rules". I totally agree the vast majority of hammer doubles are Sidelocks but just meant to emphasize there are Exceptions.
Most of the ones I have seen have been in the area of "Hardware" quality guns. I do not off hand know of any double rifles so built, but not able to say positively none were ever made.
Actually at present I have in my custody A hammer double 12 marked New Baker built prior to the move from Syracuse to Batavia which I would call a trigger plate action. J Stevens made some box lock hammer doubles. A cousin of mine has a W H Davenport 12 double which has the hammers coming through the top of the frame rather than on the outside as on the J Stevens.
I do apologize for my post coming across as snide, was just trying to emphasize something I learned a long time ago, be extremely sparing with the use of the words Always or Never. It's best to precede either word with "Almost" because "Almost Allways" there are exceptions.


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Thank you for the clarification, Miller. I was clearly overly sensitive in my response. You are right to observe the need for care in use of always or never.

Best, Tim

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I don't think any apologies are called for. I am a bit confused about the originality of a hammer gun in .470 Nitro, although I am sure such things exist. Tell me if I am overly sensitive, or absolutely off base.

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Gun is believed to be from the early 1900's. What is the birthday for the .470 NE?

DDA

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