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Nice gun! The fact none of the screws are tight or timed correctly is a bit concerning though. Looks to be missing either a spring or pin under the top lever as well.
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True, looks buggered & they are asking a war pension. I've misplaced the link.
Kind Regards,
Raimey
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Interesting gun. That engraving pattern is similar to the pattern shown in later catalogs for their sidelocks. Curious to know what MI-bloc means - proto-Helicobloc maybe? I would love to be able to see the lock configurations as they appear to be different from the standard H&H. Pattern.
$16k? That is a bit ambitious even ignoring the apparent mechanical issues.
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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You don't see many VC sidelocks. Barnett had a nice one years ago. Kept thinking about taking a run at it. Not quite as elaborate as this one, but much better condition. Sat on his list for a long time at about $6,0000, if I recall correctly.
Nicest French gun I ever owned was a Drevet-marked sideplated boxlock 16.
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 Tubeset possibly knitted on V-C's chopperlump variant?:  Canvasback: I'm going to hazard a guess the MI Bloc is MODE Intégralbloc. c'est le demi-bloc intégral ou intégralbloc http://gravure.blog.fr/2011/03/28/la-fabrication-des-canons-a-saint-etienne-suite-10904999/The pin configuration points to a back action sidelock variant. What is odd is the issued serial number. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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I don't see a seam on the top rib, so I would guess it is not an
integral demi bloc. But yes, it is a back action.
One thing which is interesting, is that it is helping me date the change over between cm and mm chamber lengths.
This gun is dated 1907, and has cm chamber length ("7").
So I guess the change over to mm was later than that.
This used to be a great gun, but it's well past its prime.
Of course, the seller is out to lunch with the Habsburg provenance.
I bet the LOP is very short too.
Overall, it's at least 3 times the proper pricing and maybe more ("deep pitting in throat").
I think that 98 is the serial number.
Some French companies ( such as Manufrance) reset the SN sequence for each model.
I guess VC did it as well.
Note the (now quite worn out) border in the stock around the sidelock. That's typical for VC..
best regards,
WC-
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The photo showing the H and crown also shows that the lock plates are way proud of the wood. Maybe due to the missing pin/screw, but a definite concern.
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