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Here in Iowa, evangelicals are a strong force. Even though I live here, I wouldn't put a whole amount of significance into theses polls. It's still too early, and sample manipulation is always possible. It's Trump who is being talked about the most.


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Well rocky mtn transplant bill, it appears you have dug in your high heels and intend to stick to your lies and bullshit.

JC Hannum beat me to the punch in correcting you on the reason, or lack thereof, for the Scooter Libby conviction. You could have known it too if you weren't content to just go off half-cocked with your DNC bullshit talking points. I don't expect that you will ever change even though you leave a trail of false and asinine assertions every time you breathlessly post something here.

Don't come here piously proclaiming to us that you dislike Democrat lies. You yourself help spread them. You still haven't shown us your proof that Bush manipulated or "fudged" intelligence that led to war in Iraq in any way. You can't admit that you don't have any and can't find any. You and King Brown are little more than human manure spreaders. At least you don't post anti-gun rhetoric like King does... you just support and defend Liberal Left Democrat anti-gun politicians.


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
That's good news, Jim. Maybe goes to show intelligence and pleasant demeanour trumps bluster and division.

Then again, has Carson been running a bunch of ads and flaunting an obscene campaign war chest. I think all of the R's were given a spring board by Trump in the debates. He opened some doors that haven't been open in quite a while.

Bill already says he doesn't care about substance and character, only honed in on possible TEA party linkage. You've explain how we're supposed to vote cutesy to off set unenlightened voters.

Intelligence and pleasantness, hardly. Romney and johny mac won't ever live those attributes down in the halls of misfires. He's a com'in on strong, but hardly anywhere near that magical 39%. If he can scratch his way up to 47%, does he get the media's uncle tom award for inverted pc?

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I just read this quote from Teddy Roosevelt in Drew's new thread celebrating his birthday:

Speech at the Naval War College Newport, Rhode Island June 2, 1897 as the newly appointed Asst. Secy. of the Navy
"Better a thousand times err on the side of over-readiness to fight, than to err on the side of tame submission to injury, or cold-blooded indifference to the misery of the oppressed."

Mistakes were certainly made in the second Iraq war, and we should learn from them. But they were nothing compared to the mistakes made by Obama in his rush to exit that war. There seems to be a new and recent push by the Liberal Left to blame Bush and Tony Blair for the rise of ISIS. Little King Brown has been floating that turd right here recently. But we all know it was the incompetence of Obama and the Foreign Policy failures of his administration that created the vacuum ISIS is filling and that has led to the deaths of around 250,000 people in the Middle East. Christianity is being exterminated, but atheists like King no doubt see that as a plus.


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Interested parties might like to check out an interview of Michael Morell, Deputy CIA Director, and Bush's intelligence briefer on Tues, May 19, 2015, in which he says straight out that Bush misrepresented the intelligence data he'd been given. As the man whose responsibility it was to provide intelligence to the President, he's in a pretty good position to recognize when that intelligence is being fudged.

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Perhaps a link would be of assistance. It would also help if you were to spell the person's name correctly, it is Morell.

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JC, thanks for the correction. That was a kind of Freudian slip.


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I just read a transcript of the interview by the extreme Liberal Leftist Chris Matthews of MSLSD with ex-CIA Director Michael Morrell... not Moore you illiterate boob. I read this in the very Liberal Daily KOS.

Morrell... not Moore, does not say "straight out that Bush misrepresented the intelligence data he'd been given." What are you trying to pull with us little Billy? Did you really think no-one would check on what you say after you have lied to us so many times?

Chris Matthews tried repeatedly to lead Morrell... not Moore, into saying that Cheney... not Bush... gave a false presentation of what he said to them. Nowhere does Morrell... not Moore, even mention Bush misrepresenting or fudging intelligence.

You said evidence that Bush fudged the intelligence is "all over the landscape." So why can't you find it from even the most Liberal sources in the country? And why do you keep compounding one lie on top of another?

We know you are a pretty dim bulb Billy, but try to stay focused here. You claimed Bush fudged the intelligence. That's George W. Bush. Bush 46. Focus Billy... and please stop making an ass of yourself by lying to us.


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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
JC, thanks for the correction. That was a kind of Freudian slip.


Really Billy? None of us would have guessed that you have Michael Moore on your little agenda driven mind. As JCHannum notes, you have screwed up about every post you've made here. It is sad and frightening to think that people of your caliber are teaching our kids.

But you keep coming back like a retarded moth repeatedly flying into a flame. Are you trying to unseat Ed Good from his position as Official Misfires Village Idiot?


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A recent Gallop poll shows 17% of Americans now supporting the Tea Party. Perhaps there's some hope after all.


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