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If a gun is safe as is, it is a waste of money to sleeve either the bores or chambers. Cyril Adams shot sleeved guns because ten gauges are not allowed in the games he plays. I will also guess that Cyril paid about a tenth of the price of the gun in question. The Scott in the first post is ridiculously overpriced.
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eightbore, agreed! Looks like I have a very cheap 10 gauge bird gun for the time being
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If a gun is safe as is, it is a waste of money to sleeve either the bores or chambers. Cyril Adams shot sleeved guns because ten gauges are not allowed in the games he plays. I will also guess that Cyril paid about a tenth of the price of the gun in question. The Scott in the first post is ridiculously overpriced. Sleeving is a good way to "rescue" guns which have barrels that are no longer "safe as is". Whether from accident, honing to the point that wall thickness is insufficient, etc. In Europe, the process requires that the gun be submitted to the proofhouse of the country in question--very typical in Great Britain, less common in other European countries--for reproof. Which means that you now have a gun that's been tested with the barrels as they now are, not as they were when the gun was new. And old guns that aren't sleeved may have had a fair amount of metal removed from the barrels over the course of their long lives. Thus they may now be out of proof because of excessive bore diameter, or dangerous because of thin walls. You don't have either of those concerns with a sleeved gun. There is reason for concern, however, over how the gun balances and handles post-sleeving. An old gun that hasn't been tampered with and is still in good condition will always be worth more than a sleeved gun. But there comes a point at which--either due to barrel wall thickness approaching .020 or so, or out of proof due to bore diameter--that a sleeved gun can represent equal or greater value than one in original condition. Depending on just how original that condition may be.
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I would never recommend that a friend of mine purchase a sleeved gun. No big deal except that such a gun can never be resold. As long as the buyer knows it's been sleeved why can't it be resold? Steve Because eightbore will never recommend it be bought! LOL So, new rules, ey? Eightballer has to OK any and all double gun purchases before we can make a move. Wow- Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely (sic)..
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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I would never recommend that a friend of mine purchase a sleeved gun. No big deal except that such a gun can never be resold. As long as the buyer knows it's been sleeved why can't it be resold? Steve Because eightbore will never recommend it be bought! LOL So, new rules, ey? Eightballer has to OK any and all double gun purchases before we can make a move. Wow- Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely (sic).. Nothing new, its always been that way. You're catching on how it works around here RWTF.
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W&Mac is a pricey store. Look at their 20ga guns. There's a beat up Fox SW extractor gun for $4600!
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Agreed they are pricey - was just curious if there would even be any interest in the hammer gun I originally posted at a particular price point. I was thinking something along the lines of half of what they are asking.
It seems, however, the consensus is that not many people on here would be interested in such a heavily modified gun even just as a shooter!
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I agree...any sleeved gun is to be valued at a fraction of its normal un-sleeved price.
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I would never recommend that a friend of mine purchase a sleeved gun. No big deal except that such a gun can never be resold. Yeah, try telling that to Ed Good-he sells questionable shotguns to the uncognoscenti all the time, if yu can believe his BS postings here.
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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Francis apparently didn't recongnize that the statement was made in jest. The good thing is that he made a new friend, another poster who can't follow a simple conversation, or recognize "tongue in cheek". I would appreciate Francis' humor a lot more if he weren't such a stalker.
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