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Last time you were here in Misfires Bill was approximately 11 months ago. You posted some totally inaccurate information and got called out on it. You did what Libtards so often do and pretended to ignore it. I kept rubbing your nose in your lies and you ran away. Do you recall getting confronted about it by another participant here at the Las Vegas Antique Arms Show? You told him you were done with Misfires. So tell me Mr. Bill... who wouldn't understand a kick in the nuts? If I have time after work tonite, I'll dig up the disingenuous shit you ran away from like a coward last year. Not everyone here is stupid and has a short memory like you.

Keith, I'm sure I've posted things here that were not entirely accurate. I'm only human. I'm sometimes mistaken. I do not lie, however, and I am capable of being corrected; I'm willing to learn. I work hard to make some sense of the world and my experience of it. My opinions are tentative and subject to change as the evidence appears and new arguments develop. I think my only serious quarrel with Misfires is members' refusal to consider any viewpoint but their own. My meeting with Doug was cordial. He struck me as someone I'd enjoy more talk with. But you're right. I should ignore Misfires. It raises my blood pressure. I'll try to ignore you completely.

How come every time we look at the evidence and consider different viewpoints, I always end up being incompetent.

I'm just sayin'.....thank God there is finally a new thread where the title isn't all caps, if you catch my drift.

Okay, now I've read Brook's column. Seems very much like one could substitute the word "Democrat" for the word "Republican" in that column and it would be just as accurate and make just as much sense.

Bill, it's interesting to me that you say "I think my only serious quarrel with Misfires is members' refusal to consider any viewpoint but their own".

My serious quarrel with the left is an utter refusal by the left to consider any viewpoint but their own. And worse than conservatives, the left is determined to make us all accept their viewpoint. The right just wants to be left to do their own thing. We wish the left would quit telling us how to be and quit taking our money to spend on things we viscerally disagree with.

I make both points because Brook's column is a great example of what I run into daily with the left....the pot calling the kettle black. Somehow, you guys are better, right?

Reminds me of my ex wife. Wish I could be rid of the left as easily.

I almost feel bad for Brooks. He�s part the problem and probably doesn�t realize it. He is the quintessential center-left self-identified �intellectual�. These are the people who associate intelligence and deep-thinking with positive outcomes. If only it were so...

Intelligent people don�t always make the right choices, they make the novel choices. He got tingles because Obama was the novel choice, never expecting it to work out the way it has. Now he's looking at an America that is angrier and more deeply divided than ever. We are no longer united in purpose or national identity. We don�t even agree on what it means to be an American. Now Brooks is saying, �Oh crap.�

Too late, Mr. Intellectual. You helped break it. This is what happens when the media and academia aligns itself with one political party. Now they�ve unleased a diverse coalition or bad conservatives, tea partiers, libertarians, neo-reactionaries of various bents, protectionists, nativists, etc.

The intellectual classs should be freaking out.

Ryan, are you saying you prefer stupidity and shallow thinking? I doubt you mean that, but it sounds as if you might. And Canvasback, your response the Brooks' essay would be easy to go along with if Brooks weren't himself a Republican. He's saying this about his own party. Craig, I don't think you're incompetent, but you do get carried away and lapse into a verbal tangle. And, yes, the Dems bear a good share of blame. I don't think they created the Tea Party, however.

What's your take Bill, is Brooks a thoughtful, deep thinker? Seems to me like he takes comfort knowing he'll have the support of the pc left wing mob mentality. Not going out on much of a limb, bashing on the Tea party, eh.

I see value in some verbal goofing around. If I showed up with a list of facts and figures, I doubt you'd care one bit. You like what you like. At least word play might make someone see that there are inconsistencies in a position. Maybe not.

Bill, doesn't really matter what Brooks calls himself. What I said is true. And were it a one off, just this time in just that column, than maybe I might be prepared to discount it. But in both our countries I see the left blaming the right for behaviors that are part of the left's core playbook.

I'm not talking about specific policies. I'm talking about behavior and I'm pointing out the hypocrisy.

We are having a federal election within a week in Canada. I have never seen anything like it in the last several months up here....the most vile criticisms of our current prime minister and the supporters of his party, regularly called fascists constantly by people who complain about the right "going negative". I'm not talking about some internet yahoos, I'm talking about the mainstream of people.


It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Probably the same 'environmentalists' who called a sitting US President, a moron.