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2-piper #383374 11/08/14 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted By: 2-piper
First & foremost let me say You should definitely have built what you wanted. As a retired machinist I truly admire the work you have done here.
I do however want to make one comment about the chamber pressure of the 12ga vs the .45-70. Chamber pressure is of course given in PSI or pounds per square inch. The chamber walls of the .45-70 would certainly have been thick enough to handle the increased pressure. As to the thrust on the action the 12ga has about 2˝ times the area of the .45-70 at its head. Therefore a the thrust from a 10K load in 12ga would be about equaled by a 25k load in the .45-70.
Ideally though to build a .45-70 I would want to drop to a 20ga frame to get the narrower & shorter standing breech. I think you made the right choice for the 12ga frame.


Actually, the 12 ga's case head area is only slightly more than twice that of the .45-70 (.616 sq.in. vs .290 sq. in.)

The .45-70 max chamber pressure is 28K, not 25.

Comparing max 12 ga thrust load against the .45-70, we get:
12 ga - 6714.4 lbs.
.45-70 - 8120 lbs.

I also believe that the action can easily contain that pressure
but as I stated earlier, I didn't want a 20 pound "me too" gun.

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Well my figures were not meant to be Absolute" but just a ball park figure. I picked up one each 12ga shell & .45-70 cartridge. the head of the 12ga miked @ .808" & the .45-70 @ .501". The area of a circle of .808" is .513 Sq In while that of a .501" circle is .197 Sq In. .513 ÷ .197 = 2.604 so when I said about 2˝ times I was actually being a bit conservative. To be absolute & technically correct I believe one would have to take the inside diameter of the case as the walls & rim area would add no thrust, only that upon which the pressure actually reacts with.
One would then have to deduct the retardation given by the "Grip" the case has on the chamber walls. Actually as I said I totally approved of your choice, but based upon all the other factors you mentioned, not because of the difference im max chamber pressure.


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Dewey...I am glad that folks such as yourself are still around to do such wonderful work..my hat is off to you mate....awesome gun, awesome targets, well done man..it looks frickin awesome
franc

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Originally Posted By: Franc Otte
Dewey...I am glad that folks such as yourself are still around to do such wonderful work..my hat is off to you mate....awesome gun, awesome targets, well done man..it looks frickin awesome
franc


Thanks Franc.

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Your workmanship is inspiring and your designs are wonderful. Thanks for the pictures and sharing your project.

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Thanks for posting Dewey, absolutely incredible work.

#383887 11/12/14 12:38 PM
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Beautiful work! I always liked the ghost sight idea for a rear sight, although my wide v express open with gold line on my 45-100 DR seems to shoot good enough for hog whacking under 100 yds.


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#417777 09/05/15 08:56 PM
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It's finished. The engraving is by Geoffroy Gournet, the metal and wood finishes, metal checkering and stingray faced pad are by yours truly. Here are a few photos.




















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Stunning!

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Magnificent Thank you

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