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Dave, I think 'the Glorious 12th. is there just for the Press and the anti shooters to get excited about. A few grouse moors shoot a few on the 12th. for tradition but most wait until September when the birds are more sporting and fly better. A wet spring this year does not bode well and numbers may be down. Last year was a good one. My boss who owns a grouse moor is off to Argentina for dove instead and will shoot the grouse later. Lagopus.....

August is a grand time of the year to be in Cordoba. It is 43F right now, there, and will warm into the low 60s by mid-afternoon. I'm "homesick".

SRH

Doggone it Stan now I'm "homesick" too...Geo

In the car trade there is an equivalent and they call them 'messers" in the UK.

Improved Modified: You contacted me via PM, I sent you one. See the story that I sent you. You will know what we dealers have to deal with.


John

Actually we call them "tyre kickers". Its also known as "show rooming" where some one spends a lot of you time looking and asking questions then goes on the net to find it cheaper
Had an experience a few years back with a man who wanted all sorts of details on a boxlock we had for sale even wanted specific pictures . We had it on display at a game fair , the guy turns up looks and asks can he take more pictures ? We ask do want the gun or not ? No he says but I'm writing a book on the maker and want as much information on any of his guns as possible . Our answers second word was "off" ,

Gentlemen: I don't have a dog in this fight. My grandfather owned a gun store, my dad is in a professional service industry. I once asked my dad how he felt about people calling his office and asking questions and not hiring him. He told me everything he learned about customer service and customer relations he learned from his dad working in the gun store. My granddad used to say "Today's tire kicker, is tomorrow's check writer" Just a thought.

H

Gents and Ladies:
I have known John for many years. I don't think I have ever purchased a gun from him. However, I have referred several friends to him. They have all been treated with respect and most have purchased from him. The bottom line, he is honest has nice wares at reasonable prices and conducts business as a gentleman. He may be a bit frustrated with the finer gun business, understandable, in the current market dominated by tactical weapons, but he continues to operate as he always has.

I agree, John is just a little frustrated. What business owner doesn't get frustrated now and then.

Gunman I love it! "show rooming"

John
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