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I, and I think the majority of Americans, are appalled with the activities of this criminal organization. Even the NAZI'S didn't stoop to this level. AND they get 500 million dollars every year from the Federal Government in your taxpayer dollars!
Additionally if the Blacks want to protest against purported Black murders they ought to go after this organization as many of the aborted babies are in fact Black.
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If the majority of Americans is appalled by what you say, let's hear it from a politician that Planned Parenthood is a criminal organization during the presidential campaign. It should work wonders for the constitutional rights of women who already favour the liberal position. PP is not a criminal organization. It is inflammatory ignorance to say so.

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I think if you take a look at a few of Carly Fiorina's recent interviews as well as those of Ben Carson, Ted Cruz and others, you will find they clearly express their opinions of PP's activities. While they might not call them criminal, they certainly consider them borderline illegal as well as repugnant.

PP's defense is not to present factual information to prove their activities are legal, they attack the producers of the videos and hire an organization to spin their position.

If you would take the trouble to look, you will find that abortion, particularly late term abortion is not supported by a majority of the population, particularly the younger generation. The canard that PP provides needed women's health services is rapidly losing its credibility and the ugly truth of their agenda is becoming clear to many thanks to these videos and others.


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....It should work wonders for the constitutional rights of women....

I never knew women had a constitutional right to profit from selling unborn baby limbs and organs. But, it sure must make them 'healthier', because it sure doesn't seem to be doing the baby much good, eh?

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No question the attitude expressed in the videos discussing fetal tissue sales is repugnant. However, as far as I can tell, there is nothing criminal about it. As to their funding of abortions, I think there are some misconceptions (no pun intended). Approximately 10% of their activity is abortions, none of which are paid from federal tax dollars other than in some cases of rape, incest and endangerment to the life of the mother. Personally, I would like to see everyone support their contraception efforts in an attempt to reduce abortions, as abortion other than for health reasons, rape or incest represent a failure of family planning in most instances and is a very poor form of birth control. Following is a discussion of the issue of their "agenda" from Factcheck.

Q: How much of Planned Parenthoods services are dedicated to abortions? Does the federal government fund those procedures?

A: Abortions represent 3 percent of total services provided by Planned Parenthood, and roughly 10 percent of its clients received an abortion. The group does receive federal funding, but the money cannot be used for abortions by law.

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We received several questions on this topic during the recent budget debate in Congress, after Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl claimed this month on the Senate floor that "well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does" is provide abortion services. That figure was wildly incorrect. Planned Parenthood says only 3 percent of its total services in 2009 were abortions. The other 97 percent of services were for contraception, treatment and tests for sexually transmitted diseases, cancer screenings, and other womens health services.

Heres a chart from a March 2011 fact sheet, which reported that the group performed about 11.4 million total services.

Kyls far-off claim was mocked by comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and Kyls office later walked back the statement, telling CNN that "[h]is remark was not intended to be a factual statement but rather to illustrate that Planned Parenthood, an organization that receives millions in taxpayer dollars, does subsidize abortions." That statement, too, prompted ribbing by Stewart and Colbert. But the comedic clips apparently did not make it to the inboxes of many of our readers, who sent us questions about whether or not Planned Parenthood does little more than provide abortions, and whether or not taxpayer money goes to pay for them.

Planned Parenthoods chart shows that abortions made up 3 percent of its total services. Another way to measure the groups abortion services, however, is to divide the total number of abortions by the number of clients. For example, Planned Parenthood said that it provided nearly 11.4 million medical services for 3 million people in 2009. Its 2011 fact sheet says it performed 332,278 abortion procedures in 2009. That would mean that roughly one out of every 10 clients received an abortion.

Taxpayer Funding

Planned Parenthoods 2008-2009 annual report states that it received $363.2 million in "Government Grants and Contracts." (See page 29.) Thats about one-third of its total revenues for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2009.

However, not all of that money is from the federal government. Planned Parenthoods government funding comes from two sources: the Title X Family Planning Program and Medicaid. About $70 million is Title X funding, Planned Parenthood spokesman Tait Sye told us. The rest about $293 million is Medicaid funding, which includes both federal and state money.

But Planned Parenthood cannot use the money it receives from the federal government for abortions anyway. According to the Department of Health and Human Services website, "by law, Title X funds may not be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning." Medicaid funding is restricted by the Hyde Amendment to only abortion cases involving rape, incest or endangerment to the life of the mother. Some states use their own funds under Medicaid to go beyond that. Seventeen states and, until recently, the District of Columbia pay for "medically necessary" abortions, according to the Guttmacher Institute. The federal budget deal now bans Washington, D.C., from using its funds to pay for abortions.

Lori Robertson and Michael Morse
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Planned Parenthood. Annual Report 2008-2009.

Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood Services. Fact Sheet. Mar 2011.

"CNN Newsroom." Transcript. CNN. 8 Apr 2011.

Guttmacher Institute. State Funding of Abortion Under Medicaid. Policy Brief. 1 Apr 2011.

DeBonis, Mike. "D.C. abortion funding: the facts." The Washington Post. 11 Apr 2011.

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It has to be breaking the law of the land to be criminal. That may or may not be the case. It IS, however, evil. And any law that permits is it evil, too.

Wonder how the 55.7 million dead babies, since Roe vs. Wade, would vote on the issue if they had the chance, King? Oh, I forgot, that is a moot point for libs like you. You don't think fetuses are people.

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Originally Posted By: James M

I, and I think the majority of Americans, are appalled with the activities of this criminal organization. Even the NAZI'S didn't stoop to this level.
Jim
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Phenol injections, carbon monoxide chambers/vans, mass executions, burning of entire villages with all their occupants, concentration camp exterminations with use of human fat to make soap, stuffing pillows with human hair.... That is what German Nazis did. To compare PP to that is outrageous. You're crazy

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
Phenol injections, carbon monoxide chambers/vans, mass executions, burning of entire villages with all their occupants, concentration camp exterminations with use of human fat to make soap, stuffing pillows with human hair.... That is what German Nazis did. To compare PP to that is outrageous. You're crazy


How about you ................ you think fetuses are people?

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Originally Posted By: cpa
....fetal tissue sales is repugnant. However, as far as I can tell, there is nothing criminal about it. As to their funding of abortions, I think there are some misconceptions....
....The group does receive federal funding, but the money cannot be used for abortions by law.

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....only 3 percent of its total services in 2009 were abortions....

....Heres a chart from a March 2011 fact sheet, which reported that the group performed about 11.4 million total services....

....Its 2011 fact sheet says it performed 332,278 abortion procedures in 2009. That would mean that roughly one out of every 10 clients received an abortion.

Taxpayer Funding
....about one-third of its total revenues for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2009....

The stuff you dug up is a sorry word play. What's a 'service' is like saying what's a widget. Facts are, one in ten that walk through the door get an abortion.

Clearly, some of the mentioned 'services' require less of the budget, yet are given equal weight in this 'accounting' report that you dug up. Most important, there's no explanation about commingling or separation of funds.

I wonder what the income was/is from marketing and sales of fetal tissue, that procedures were intentionally altered from what the healthier mom was told, so that the profit margin would be higher. I wonder how much prior input the 'buyers' had and if they were paying for the wining and dining.

No, it really isn't repugnant. Could that just be the minimum lip service indicated for psuedo bipartisanship when justifying the selective non enforcement of some law?

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Originally Posted By: James M

Additionally if the Blacks want to protest against purported Black murders they ought to go after this organization as many of the aborted babies are in fact Black.
Jim


How many lives you figure those black babies saved (not to mention the tax dollars saved) ?

Sad to think but It's a proven fact that most would have turned into criminals or at least be living off the system.


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