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All this talk of atheists and agnostics done gimmied a serious case ' o the fantods. (though it could be the two pitchers of beer we had with lunch) Wish Drew would get down here and spin some of that Gurnall magic.




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The only times my prayers were never answered was on the golf course. Billy Graham

Age-old indeed and why I refer to it as the punk's game, not wanting to denigrate those who think they can change it but consider it as impossible.

So I posited to you:

"I believe you and I wonder if it's possible to remake a society freely, without callous manipulation, as intended with a ballot."

Am I correct?

The perils of Democracy are well known. It disintegrates into Mob Rule. That's why America is a Constitutional Republic. Now, since the Constitution is not being adhered to, the degradation, or de-evolution is accelerating.

Lets see if I understand this. We have posters here who claim to the agnostics and/or atheists. Yet none of them can explain how the universe began without the intervention of a supreme being? Just what the hell do you base your beliefs on then? The universe sprung up all by itself?
I just love calling bluffs!
Jim

Oh please.

Agnostic means you don't believe until you've seen it yourself, or it has been proven to your satisfaction. I'm open to all possibilities. What is certain is that when I die one of two things will happen. Consciousness will continue on some level, and I'll be pleasantly surprised, or it will end, and I won't know the difference.

Where did he come from? Yes, it's a rhetorical question.

Just because you cannot understand why or how something happened...does not mean you just make something up. Particularly a system where woman are relagated to a lesser statis, and gold is given to the high priests. Sounds pretty fishy to me.

I'm sure early man, and woman, saw asteroids in the night sky...then started to prey and sacrifice to them. We know better now. Well some of us do.

If you do not understand how something happened(origin of the universe) as an example we're discussing and can't explain it that's called accepting a belief on faith. I do not pretend to understand God or be able to really explain a supreme being nor does any other Christian that I know and that's why this is referenced as a faith based religion.
So how does my faith based religion differ from whatever you happen to believe but can't explain or don't understand?
Jim

'So how does my faith based religion differ from whatever you happen to believe but can't explain or don't understand?'

It doesn't...but I don't hold it against others like some do...big difference.

So Jehovah witnesses come to my door a couple times a year (god bless them), usually with a younger person. They ask questions etc. then I ask 'if I don't believe in god...what happens to me? They say, well you�re going to hell (in a nice enough way). Then I say that god created us...they agree...I say god gave us each a brain...They agree...then I say god gave us the ability to make choices in life...they agree....then I say, so if I choose not to believe in God, I'm going to hell....they agree....so then I say, so that really means we have no choice....they go hmmmm...then I say it's like Henry Ford saying, you can have any color of car you want sir, as long as it's black. The young person looks at the other for guidance. I bid them a nice day, and god bless.

D.

If everything is trivial and equivalent, there must be good reason that the founding documents are barely worth the paper that they're written on.

I asked dal a bit ago, similar thought here. You've mentioned instilling a very different value system in your two boys than how the lefties want them to believe and behave. What's the point? The goal in life should just be to accumulate pleasure, because it all ends sooner or later.

It should be easily provable that religion, particularly the faith component, affects so much of our average lives, let alone world events even if someone tries not to participate in matters of faith. It's certainly much more concrete than evolutionary theories, yet faith in evolutionary theories meet some degree of satisfaction.

Maybe, not all 'religion' is equal and it's smart to put belief and faith in the creator that endowed US rights. Other countries and their citizens can put their faith in their leaders, spokespersons, courts, idols or their oppressors.