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Respectfully Mike, youre right about most things but your wrong about this.

Colored people are like human weeds and have to be exterminated.

Find a source for that quote and Ill eat crow. It may reflect her sentiments but I challenge anyone to source it. It was made up by zealots.

Many, if not all, of the quotes are out of context and do not acknowledge the complexities of the progressive era. If you wanted to get something done back them you embraced eugenics. It was mainstream and it got you the favor or the medical and academic communities. It decoupled morality from birth control.

We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population is also out of context.

This is the full quote: The ministers work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

The context is she thought blacks might mistakenly associate her birth control project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow south. Her idea was for Black clergy to spread the word that the birth control had noble intentions.

Im not saying she was a wonderful women but show me a serious scholar or historian that says she had the goal of black genocide. Note the half-truths never come from mainstream religious leaders. For example, you will never see the Catholic church or Mormons use these quotes because they fact check. The stuff comes from the evangelical fringe. Unfortunately it gets picked up by mainstream people.

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The contributed baboons photo and spurious commentary by a couple members is plainly resentment that a person who couldn't have sat at the front of an Alabama bus was chosen by the country to be its president---over the best candidate the whites had on offer. The fringe always looks to others to blame.

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Originally Posted By: RyanF
We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population is also out of context.

This is the full quote: The ministers work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.


I read the full quote way back in the beginning of this thread when Mike posted it. If anyone is taking it out of context, it seems to be you Ryan. Or are you expecting us to ignore the many other things Margaret Sanger said and did and who she was associated with during her work, particularly on the Negro Project. It seems that a lot of Pro-Abortion people have hoodwinked you and a lot of other people into believing that all of her contemporaries were just like her in order to try to rewrite her history. Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Do the math. Why did MLK praise someone who wrote and thought like she did and spoke before several KKK gatherings? You'd have to ask MLK. Or you could ask his naked Greco-Roman wrestling buddy King Brown... one of the masters of taking things out of context and trying to pass them off as truth. How many times has King Brown tried to make Mitt Romney out to be a raging misogynist because of his "women's profiles in binders" statement? How many times has King Brown attempted to justify Liberal Left Infringements upon the 2nd Amendment just because Leftist Democrats have already done so where they are in power? I wonder why you have never once admonished him for that, but come out guns blazing in defense of Sanger? If you seriously want us to believe you are a Conservative, you are going to have to play the part once in a while.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
The contributed baboons photo and spurious commentary by a couple members is plainly resentment that a person who couldn't have sat at the front of an Alabama bus was chosen by the country to be its president---over the best candidate the whites had on offer. The fringe always looks to others to blame.


We could also compare those baboons to you King, and note that baboons are not compulsive liars who claim to be good pals with JFK when all they did was report on his campaign as thousands of other reporters did. Baboons do not claim to have taken JFK's wife Jackie on lunch dates either. Baboons also do not crow about their award winning wines when all they are is the smallest, one acre, supplier of grapes to Jost Winery. Baboons are not so stupid as to expect anyone to believe that their fathers converted to Catholicism without belief in the Resurrection. Baboons also do not consistently support and defend anti-gun Liberal Left Socialist politicians, or criticize our NRA, or suggest that we cede ground to the anti-gunners as you do.

Clearly, baboons are more honest and intelligent than you who so admires the incompetent Obama... who, by the way, isn't fit to drive an Alabama bus.

You still have not explained why the "fringe" you so frequently criticize are so happy with black SCOTUS Justice Clarence Thomas or why we would happily vote for blackDr. Ben Carson over Lily White Hillary. I don't expect you to do so any time soon because you would have to be honest, and we all know that is not in your nature.

I loved how jOe deftly lambasted you in the "WTB-book item" listing in the For Sale section a couple days ago. I urge anyone who hasn't seen that example of King Brown hypocrisy and dishonesty on full display to check it out.

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=403802&page=2

Funny shit!


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....spurious commentary by a couple members is plainly resentment that a person....was chosen by the country to be its president---over the best candidate the whites had on offer. The fringe always looks to others to blame.

Hmmm, who's the racist now. Aside from shortcomings due to race, apparently white's aren't 'people' either. Just kidding King, you aren't in the fringe, pretty mainstream, eh?

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Ryan I didn't use the sentence you quoted, "Colored people are like human weeds and have to be exterminated. And I don't see where James used it either.

But I did use "weeds" as a partial quote of Sanger. She used it in an garden analogy, something like "good children in a garden, not weeds on the back of the lot."

This is the Sanger quote from my first post on this thread:
We do not want word to go out,' she wrote to a colleague, 'that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." I think that is accurate of what Sanger said and reflects her intent.

The American eugenics movement of that era was implicitly racist. Many of the leaders of that movement were explicitly racist. In Ms. Sanger's publication she not included an article by Herr Hitlers Minister of Eugenics, she had many, many articles by leading American racist (racialist) eugenicists.

Her "Negro Projcet" led to the "Tuskegee syphilis experiment". Ms. Sanger did not participate in the project I don't mean that she condoned or the experiment. But her beliefs and her arguments led to that racist experiment on Black men. The liberals have tried to lay that crime on the white Southerners, but that indictment should be hung on the gravestone of Ms. Sanger and her contemporary eugenicists.

Ms. Sanger spoke to at least one KKK meeting. Many of Ms. Sanger's friends were explicit racist eugenicists. Ms. Sanger at best, was an implicit racist, at worst, at explicit racist.

Herr Hilter's racist and eugenicist beliefs led to the Holocaust.

Ms. Sanger's racist and eugenicist beliefs led to Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood led to an extraordinarily disproportionate impact on Black Babies. Those Black babies are killed at seven times the per capita rate of White babies. By any definition that is a disparate impact on Blacks.

Ms. Sanger and her contemporary racist eugenicists sought to drastically lower the Black birth rate of citizens. And did their best to achieve their ends. And they spawned a very racist institution called Planned Parenthood.

Racist is as racist does.

Racist beliefs lead to racist actions and racist programs.



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Liberals aren't the fringe, Craig. Half the US is liberal in its voting, and a majority of those are conservative in other aspects, as I am.

The Tiresome Twins claim those who vote liberal for reasons other than gun control are anti-American, treasonous idiots.

Imagine a political party, service club, Legion of "those kind of people," as Archie Bunker would say!

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You fly in and vote ?

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Jims opening post used a phony quote. Do fake quotes make you suspicious? If someone can source it, I go shoot myself a crow and eat it.

What if the claim most PP clinics are located in black neighborhoods is false? Fewer than 10% of clinics are in black neighborhoods. If someone can back up the 78% claim, I go shoot myself a crow and eat it.

While the abortion rate among black women is higher than average, so is the birth rate, so is the syphilis rate, so is the HIV/AIDS rate. This proves nothing other than Blacks are no good a safe sex. Oops, Margaret Sanger said that so it is RACIST!

If you want to believe this black holocaust nonsense, thats your white privilege. Heck, Ill pile on too.

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Originally Posted By: RyanF
Jims opening post used a phony quote. Do fake quotes make you suspicious?....

Which quote are you referring to. Was it the, 'I admire [her] enormously' quote.

Maybe this one will make you feel better, right out of wiki. Australian Aborigines were 'just a step higher than the chimpanzee'. I don't know or care if my quote stands up to snopes. I've been wonder more about the direction of today's America.

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