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Chuck H #404617 05/25/15 03:44 PM
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Sheesh, Kenneth,

I guess them commie pricks were so busy f...in' our sh!t up they took their eye off the ball in Moscow.



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Originally Posted By: lonesome roads
Sheesh, Kenneth,

I guess them commie pricks were so busy f...in' our sh!t up they took their eye off the ball in Moscow.
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Yeah,

The ideology has clearly failed on a world-wide basis, yet the same sociopathic beliefs lives on in the Democrat Party.

Notice that in 1963 there were still Democrats that were anti-communist. Name me one Today.

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Originally Posted By: lonesome roads
Sheesh, Kenneth,

I guess them commie pricks were so busy f...in' our sh!t up they took their eye off the ball in Moscow.


Don't forget to give credit where credit is due as Doublefan likes to remind us whenever he jumps in to defend Obama.

Ronald Reagan had the brains to spend the old Soviet Union into bankruptcy and collapse. The Berlin Wall was taken down and one Communist Dictatorship after another chose freedom and Capitalism over the iron fist of Communism. Remember Yugoslavia, Romania, Czechoslovakia, and all those other Soviet Satellites that moved toward Democracy? But like the Iraq/Iran thing, somebody decided to take their foot off the neck of the snake, and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Being "more flexible" with Putin certainly is some "Hope and Change" that made him a happy guy.




A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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....There's plenty of evidence that Evolution occurs, especially in the context of modern genetics. Mitochondrial and Y chromosome DNA testing has been able to trace human evolution back to previous species of humans....


Are you figuring they were already human? How did they crawl out of the ooze. How does science explain and prove the Cambrian explosion.


Here's an overview of the Cambrian Explosion.

http://biologos.org/questions/cambrian-explosion

One of the main themes presented for the rapid evolutionary change is that after a major extinction event, previously occupied "niches" in an ecosystem are available. So, when an adaptation occurs to take advantage of this existing food source it's much easier for the adaptive change to take hold, thus speeding up Evolution.

The same type thing happened after the extinction event that took out the dinosaurs occurred, as mammals were able to adapt and fill previous niches held by dinosaurs.

Another, smaller example is what happened after the relatively minor event that occurred around 12 thousand years ago, the period called the "Younger Dryas". In that event the vast majority of temperate zone ice-age megafauna became extinct. All the mammoths, mastodons, giant sloths, woolly rhinoceros, etc. disappeared. Only one major megafauna species survived, the American Bison. There's also evidence that current bison are actually quite a bit smaller than their ancestors, meaning that being smaller, and more efficient with food use, was key to surviving the thousand-year abrupt cold period of the Younger Dryas. An evolutionary adaptation.

Human evolution of course goes much farther back, with a yet unidentified common ancestor with apes being around eight to twelve million years ago, multiple possibilities of ardipithecines and australopithicines up until around two and a half million years ago,then the emergence of "Hom0 Habilus". The first of the human genus.

Now, if you choose not to believe this stuff it is your Right. As far as freedom of religion. Just do not expect your faith based belief to be taught in a Science class. It should be taught in a Comparative Religion class, where the Christian morality can be explained to have resulted in the concept of the Individual and Individual Freedom, and consequentially the Constitution. All religious statist dogmas should be relegated to the same class, not in mainstream classes like they are in now. Class Warfare, Anti-Capitalism, Redistribution, Social Justice, Entitlement, Man-Made Global Warming, Communism and Socialism in general,etc. are all sociopathic religious beliefs that belong only in a comparative religion class. They should rightly be taught as totalitarian and oppressive, and completely contrary to the American, Constitutional concept of Individual Freedom and Equality.

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So, Ken, as I understand your last paragraph, you equate Christianity with class warfare, anti-capitalism, social justice, entitlement, man-made global warming, communism and socialism. You said they all should be taught in a Comparative Religion class, so you must lump them all together. Pretty radical ............. equating Christianity with Communism. Deep down, you must really have an axe to grind with Christianity.

And, by the way, the majority of non-Christians refer to following the teachings of Christ as a "religion". Those of us who DO follow Him in our lives see it as more of a way of life than a religion.

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Originally Posted By: Stan
So, Ken, as I understand your last paragraph, you equate Christianity with class warfare, anti-capitalism, social justice, entitlement, man-made global warming, communism and socialism. You said they all should be taught in a Comparative Religion class, so you must lump them all together. Pretty radical ............. equating Christianity with Communism. Deep down, you must really have an axe to grind with Christianity.

And, by the way, the majority of non-Christians refer to following the teachings of Christ as a "religion". Those of us who DO follow Him in our lives see it as more of a way of life than a religion.

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Hardly.

Are you Trolling?

Christianity is the antithesis of Religious Statism. The only thing they have in common is that they are both religions. It is the resulting subjective morality that is the point, and the clear difference.

How about the comparison of Christianity with Islamic Fundamentalism? Wouldn't you say that the subjective morality between the two is clearly different?

Your response is the "Trap" I'm referring to, that Christians won't admit that Christianity is a religious, faith-based belief. Just like the Statists. I have no "axe to grind" with Christianity, although your reaction is typical among both Christians and Religious Statists. If I don't believe what you do, I must be "Evil".

What has happened, is that Christians have fallen for the Statist "Ruse" or "Feint" and gone for the debate about faith-based dogma. The real front in the War of Religion is on the battlefield of Subjective Morality, with the Christians not even aware of the attack from this direction.

It's like taking offence if I say that Miller and Budweiser are both "Beer", or saying that a Winchester and a Remington are both "Guns"..If I say that a Chinese double is of poor workmanship, yet a Parker is well made, do I have an "axe to grind" against the Chinese gun?

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I'm not trolling, Ken, I really don't understand how you are not equating them when you say that they all should be taught in a Comparative Religion class. And, please do not think I am taking offense, I am not offended at all. I just don't understand your position.

I must have missed something tho', when did I project that you must be
Evil"? That's a stretch, isn't it?

All my best, SRH


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They are both religions. They should be taught in a Comparative Religion class.

It's the true opportunity to compare and contrast the subjective morality, something that is not possible now, since the statists have been so successful in the demonization of Christianity and the insertion of their own sociopathic dogma within the Public School system.

This is also about the point you made about Christianity, with it's subjective morality being a "Way of Life". I consider that certainly preferable to unconstitutional, sociopathic, religious statism, which is now being taught in the public school system as their "Way of Life"..

All the tenets of Religious Statism I mentioned before should be contested at the School Board level. It is clearly the teaching of religious dogma, and is blatantly unconstitutional.

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Originally Posted By: Ken61
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Originally Posted By: Ken61
....There's plenty of evidence that Evolution occurs, especially in the context of modern genetics. Mitochondrial and Y chromosome DNA testing has been able to trace human evolution back to previous species of humans....


Are you figuring they were already human? How did they crawl out of the ooze. How does science explain and prove the Cambrian explosion.


....One of the main themes presented....

...thus speeding up Evolution....

....able to adapt and fill previous niches.... held by dinosaurs.

....Another, smaller example is....

....An evolutionary adaptation....

....a yet unidentified common ancestor....

Now, if you choose not to believe this stuff it is you Right. As far as freedom of religion. Just do not expect your faith based belief to be taught in a Science class. It should be taught in a Comparative Religion class....


If you take a look, wouldn't you agree that supposition and grabbing convenient examples out of prehistory may not be good or even marginally acceptable 'science'. Yet, it's taught in science class. It seems that a good bit of faith is required to subscribe to ridgid evolution concepts. Maybe, it should be taught under a comparative logic curriculum, it could range from tortured to precise mathematical predictions.

You do mix in adaptation here and there, and I agree somewhat. Not that we'll have a human or even an earth worm climb out of a test tube zapped to form rudimentary amino acids. If there are ten cave men sitting around a campfire, the group just doesn't need the one or two around that won't hunt or complain a lot about their problems. Heresy to the overwhelming modern examples of adaptive changes, the new evolution?

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I wouldn't be opposed to teaching the religious rebuttals and refutations of Evolution within a Comparative Religion class. That's certainly an appropriate intellectual exercise. Students could make up their own minds, and choose to have "Faith" if they desire. I don't consider it appropriate within a science class. Any more than I consider the current teaching of statist religious dogma within a history or social studies class.

I like religion to be left to the really "Big" issues. Did God create the "Big Bang"? I'm certainly Agnostic about that one.

If we're going into an Evolution vs Creationism discussion, we really need another thread. As it is I've co-opted this thread too far as it is...Sorry.

Anyone have any more jokes?

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