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Many thanks Robert for the effort. Allow me a bit of time to digest the combinations. Have you additional information on the "stop" itself?
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Raimey
rse Dear Raimey, my name is Igor www.shotguncollector.com
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I well know your name but was in a rush just forgot to add the ovich to Robert. Amendment made, pardon the faux pas.
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What was that nasty-gramm/letter you note from/to Sergei in the Helice post?
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Raimey, everything`s OK
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What was that nasty-gramm/letter you note from/to Sergei in the Helice post?
rse Sergey from Kiev wrote me a letter about V-K patent. I hope you understand my answer to him.
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Raimey Yes it is the one pictured above on this page. I put it on layaway at Cabelas so I could do some research before I plunged headfirst into a gun I didn't know much about. However after reading this post I think ill run right back out there to pick it up this weekend. For being 6 1/4 pounds and pre-WWII its tight and closes (as doverham put it) with a sound like an 8 lb perazzi. I was also very impressed with the slim lines of the gun. It seems very well made, and the stop is quite interesting (although the hidden stop is moreso) here is the link to Cabelas ad for the gun Verney Carron Helistop - Cabelas Nice looking gun, JJ. The long barrels on a French 16 are somewhat unusual. My first V-C, many years ago, was an "Helice 33", No. 3 grade--per the information V-C sent me from their 1934 catalog. Almost identical engraving to yours. The Helice 33 was a new model (introduced in 1933, as the name would indicate) which featured coil mainsprings. the No. 3 grade featured diamond steel barrels and the nice engraving similar to yours. (The standard 33 was basically plain, without engraving, and had "very fine" barrel steel.) Introduced in both 12ga and 16ga. Listed weight of the 16ga was 2kg750-2kg850. Pretty light. Enjoy your V-C.
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L. Brown
Thanks for the compliment. May I ask why you say that long tubes are a French 16 are unusual? I thought 16's typically had longer barrels than 12's did? Just a curiosity
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They're unusual because they did not make many. Pretty sure you'll find that most French 16's are 28" (or metric equivalent) or less. I'd say you're about as likely to find a short 16, less than 26", likely made for woodcock with one barrel having dispersion rifling, than you are a French 16 with 30" tubes. I've owned a bunch of French 16's (need to count one of these days), never any that long--and I wouldn't have rejected one out of hand just because of long barrels.
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Interesting.. The short barrels for woodcock make sense I suppose. The long barrels definitely wont change my mind on the gun. It balances and swings beautifully. This will be my first French gun (I've struggled to escape the Belgian browning world) and this forum is greatly assisting in the expansion of my French Firearm knowledge. For that I thank you all.
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Welcome to the French "countryside", JJ. You might get a little ribbing here and there, but it is a lovely journey down a path less travelled.
Mike
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