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Here is a thread about making damascus for knife making. The guy that is doing this is not a barrel maker of course, but he is some sort of Guild-equivalent master of this sort of work. He has some video clip of the early part of the process and some discussion of what's happening.

There are lots of pretty knives out there, but his are a "cut above" the rest. Pun perfectly appropriate.....

http://shilohrifle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8758

Meanwhile some beautiful barrels here and I could stand to learn a lot about the different English damascus guns that I have (3 rifles, and several shotties).


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Me too! Would like copy of article, thanks.

I tried sending a PM, but couldn't get it to work...."error on the page"

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Yes, Please send me a copy also at kopkaie@msn.com
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Found some more excellent pics of Lefever and Baker damascus on the Greg Martin Auctions site, including this Optimus (which might be Truk Extra or extra fine Turkish damascus)



I also asked the Remington Society if they can come up with the name used on E and D Grade 1894s. Should have the 1899 Parker catalog reprint soon and the poster illustrating about 30 kinds of damascus (which we'll scan and post.)

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Many thanks to Pete M who graciously shared a c. 1900 product brochure by a Belgian brl maker. Some detail was lost in the scanning and posting, but it's up now http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery.fcgi?p=999&gid=16082038
Interesting findings include several examples of a One Iron Crolle-Twist Laminate and 5 grades of "Turkish damascus" which appears to be what US gunmakers primarily used, but which was given names like "Boston, Oxford, Washington, American Flag, Horseshoe, etc." for marketing. The Lefever brls in the previous post look like either 1st quality Bernard or Leclere.

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Dr Drew,

Glad you got it. Here are some more images.

Remington 1894 C grade - Star Damascus. Notice the rib.


Embedded name Zenobe Gamme. Dr Gaddy once posted some actual photos of this type of work. I just did not save them. Maybe some else did. Hopefully they will post them.


From Puraye's Le Damas. Identified by Gaier as one of the last workshops still making damascus tubes circa 1920


Modern Damasteel. A very different product with some resemblance to traditional damascus


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Found the same image on the Belgian artisans website, which is a bit more clear
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20h/a%20higny%20gb.htm

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Let us remember that Damascus knife blades are completely differeent from Damascus gun barrel. Both are beautiful, however. I have obtained a bunch of twist and Damascus steel baeel cut offs that I am going to have made into knife blades. For the proper edge hardness, there will be a center core of regular knife steel. Should be very neat.

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Originally Posted By: revdocdrew
Found the same image on the Belgian artisans website, which is a bit more clear
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20h/a%20higny%20gb.htm



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Received the Parker Bros. 1899 catalog re-print from Cornell Pubs, which confirms that G and D Grades had what Parker called "Fine Damascus" Here is a 1899 DH with fine '3 Blade Crolle'



C Grade guns had "Fine Bernard Steel" and I'd sure like to archive an example. Anyone with a damascus brl C Grade, please post a high resolution close-up here or e-mail by JPG attachment revdoc2@cox.net and thanks!

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