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When the Seljuk Turks, an Islamic fundamentalist sect took Jerusalem from the Saracens, they oppressed and murdered the Christians in the Holy Land. Sound familiar? They also essentially closed down the Christian Pilgrim Trade, a major source of revenue for the Catholic Church.

Truck XL model Ford 150, stripped down. Motor vehicles to me only transportation, not much interested in them other than that. I am actually enthused though because of obvious technology advances from my 2002 Silverado, more power and better mileage. I carry heavy loads, often 1,600 pounds in the box, and similar load on trailer. A button on dash to change from high range to four-low is appreciated.

My "consumerism" meant we're indoctrinated to buy anything touted by the best advertising agencies. Two of my friends, one very close, were principal political strategists for the Progressive Conservative and Liberals Party of Canada, finest and to my mind most ethical in the business. I don't know the distance of Marxist-Leninist from theirs---or Carville's or Rove's.

The very close friend and mentor, for the cynical, was Dalton Kingsley Camp, who worked for conservatives all across the country, a national treasure, now deceased with highest journalistic prize in his name. The other went from advertising agency, PM press secretary, big embassy post in Washington, VP of one our biggest banks, now consulting freely in dozens of roles to strengthen communities,including editorial board of our best magazine Walrus.

They both came from the same village in the potato-growing region of neighbouring New Brunswick. They were close friends.

Dalton thought of it as a punk's game, too.

"In the bloodless wars of politics, the wounds are to pride and place. In such activity, men easily exaggerate their relevance to it. More than that, once caught up in it, the significance of politics becomes disproportionate to their lives. To many, I suspect, their importance to themselves, as to others, lies in their being politicians. One would wish it to be the other way round-that their importance as politicians lies in men being themselves, true to their best impulse and finest ideals, less concerned with the victory of a party as they are more concerned with the survival of their own personality and nature. But party politics feeds and flourishes upon the blood of sublimation. Every man must serve another's larger cause, giving or lending himself in whole or in part to another judgement, a further condition, a greater good, a lesser will, a common motive and purpose, and these replace his own criteria, the immediacy of his own conscience, until his own moral nature becomes a mere accessory to the cause, which is no more than his neighbour's, but the product of some ill-defined greater good and lesser evil. In the trackless waste of politics, men lose their purpose, and the stars by which they once steered vanish in the bottomless sky of other men's aspirations. They wander like nomads, from oasis to oasis, quenching their thirst from the wells of power and warming themselves by the abandoned fires of those who have come and gone before." - Gentlemen, Players and Politicians.

All irrelevant. What possible business is it of yours what another free and equal individual chooses to spend his money on?

That's the problem with you pseudo-elitist statist, religious bigots. Your anti-intellectual rejection of the concept of "Equality" in favor of faith-based demonization and sociopathic religious infliction is the hallmark of your unconstitutional religion.

Hand up here, I'll be a cynic. Keeping in mind that you describe conservatives with words like 'progressive' and 'green'. I notice that even when you're trying a gotch'ya, you are proud and comfortable with a 'journalist' working for politicians of a particular stripe. Maybe, your 'conservatives' gave him the 'highest journalistic prize' for toeing the line, kinda like bo getting the nobel piece pipe prize?

You gotta read other stuff, but I see where you're coming from. The kubaya of the punks game make it easy to fake civility when....every thing is 'progressing' your way, but the ole wild west dalton gang tactics will rear their head with just the slightest wound to lefty pride. Neat little code word, pride, able to leap tall buildings, or at least does some pretty heavy lifting as a catch all for the agenda.

Whoa, Craig. You're mixing Canada with the US. We're a different country and culture. As Dalton wrote to me one time: "Remember it's not all black hats and white hats." That's what keeps Canada governable and US in the slings. You've got cultural AND political wars to attend.

We're a country engaged in a multicultural experiment that confides reciprocity to everyone: French and English, immigrants and native Canadians and indigenous first-here. Fake civility doesn't enter it. Whatever we're doing, it's an improvement on Washington's poisonous polarization, which according to polls all Americans condemn.

We do take pride in not beating ourselves up while waiting without venomous exchanges to test the performance of our legislators in the next federal election. See the difference?

Polarization certainly does exist in Canada, and you have spoken about it yourself King. But it may be harder to detect when there are dozens of slightly different political parties, and when there are Liars like you who attempt to portray Liberals as Conservatives, Greens as non-liberal, etc.

Aren't you glad that I'm here to remind everyone that whatever you say should always be taken with a huge grain of salt... kind of like the warnings on packs of cigarettes?

And that's what DaveK does too with pictures, videos, charts, and graphs, That makes it more graphic like those cancer pictures on Canadian cigarette packs. We like to remind everyone about the Cancer called Liberalism.

Just a public service, is all.

It's everyone's business that citizens not make law to suit their personal wishes. Courts and legislatures adjudicate within constitutions on this every day. Law controls behaviour. You're a rare person outside our common cage. Most prefer to choose how they want to live collectively, productively and harmoniously within our communities. The result has been reasonably satisfactory, whatever you call it in the land of the brave and home of the free. If this is inimical to an intellectual's concept of equality you'll have to live with it. Anarchy isn't an option.

When did Ken61 ever once suggest anarchy King? What Ken and the rest of us who aren't Liberal idiots want is a cessation of Unconstitutional vote buying... which leads to the eventual 51% of government dependents... who feel compelled by self-interest to elect those Liberal Democrats that have bribed them... who pack Courts with like-minded Judges... who pick and erode at the Original Intent of the Framers.

This could be accomplished by anarchy, or it can be accomplished by constantly reminding less educated folks that there are Liars and Wolves in Sheep's Clothing like you out there with a dishonest Liberal Socialist and Anti-Gun agenda.

Whoa King, you don't really have to, I know we're different, but you mix and compare constantly. Can I count on your support that others can mix and match, in the name of compassion, tolerance and progress. Maybe you missed my point, because of my distracting and unnecessary additions, what was I trying to get across.

Oh, I remember, don't you see any, even the slightest, problem with an award winning 'journalist' being a high level political adviser. Unless of course if I was correct, it was a political award for cultural excellence.

Venomous exchanges eh? Consider this, I believe there has been a recent court decision here ruling that sporting ammo can not be REGULATED by the epa. I believe it's up in the air whether it sticks or not. Now why in the world would we be concerned about some piddly little regs that we must just suck up and politely eat because that's what they all do.

Hint, weren't you just been splained to by a Brit that's walking the walk, that shooting in the uk would be gone as they know it within ten years. All by simply regulating and taxing it out of any possible use by gays, single moms, the poor and all but the richest minorities.

Do you see the difference? How could I take pride in anything, didn't I just explain that it's a handy dandy code word of the left. It could be, with all our differences-n-stuff, that a chunk of US citizens can see the the losses that being 'governable' force down throats in an incremental way.

Is that why you insist on the sheeple being governable, less resistance to progress?

All excellent points you made there in your last post craigd, and I especially liked those I quoted above.

But let's be certain that everyone fully understands the motive behind King's "Norwegian Lead- Yes" thread on the front page. King is merely trying to portray himself as a gun guy. King appears to be doing a flip-flop since he has in the past defended the junk science put up by the anti-lead idiot GrouseGuy. Real Gun Guys don't support politicians who attempt to separate them from their guns and ammo. Yet King gravitates to the Leftist Anti-gunner every time.

It was astute of you to pick up on how these anti-gun/anti ammo initiatives would have a greater impact upon the poor and downtrodden masses than the wealthy who King demonizes and calls selfish.