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What I am hoping that you find after your chamber cast is this !!

http://www.buffaloarms.com/43_Mauser_Black_Powder_Ammunition%20_it-158048.aspx?CAT=4443

Mike

p.s. a question, does the rifle barrel have rifling? or is it smooth bore?

Found the letters DRGM and some numbers that cannot be read in the area that the arrow is pointing. There are a series of numbers right after the letters so small and so close to the rib that they cannot be read. It is so close to the rigid piece that it probably was stamped before that piece was installed.

Also right next to the hanger for the forearm are 2 letters the capital U is facing left and below that the letter D is facing the opposite direction and is staggered down one space.

Also there are 1 set of numbers, 7 then a space then 2 badly blurred numbers. there are very hard to read.

Not sure if that ammo will work as this seems to have a straight case, I'll know more after it is cast.

It there rifling in the rifle barrel?

Yes there are rifling's, very shallow, 6 riflings.

I've seen a DRGM Nr. on the extractor leg prior. I'll have to dig a bit. Can you determine how many numbers, say 5 or 6?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Ah, it was on a Nimrod purportedly being D.R.G.M. 242486.


http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=296192&page=3



Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Exact same location, looks like 6 numbers. Letters are very clear but the numbers are smaller and tight to the rib and not stamped as deep or clear. If they were stamped after installation they would have to be a very very narrow set of stamps.

Also the 3 numbers below the drgm in your photo are in the exact same location as the 3 numbers I mentioned above on my drilling.

Interesting, possible same builder?

Hum, it is possible that T&S could be the culprit but I would hope to see one of their trademarks. I guess we should add them to the very narrow pool of mechanics. How 'bout a close-up image of your lugs?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Note this from the other thread:

"G.C.Dornheim's D.R.G.M. 223532 for the 8.15X40R dates to 1904 while Vierordt's DRGM 274380 for the 8x62R should date to say 1906 as would the Kersten Modell I under D.R.G.M. 252511. So Gebrauchsmuster 242486 would date to circa 1905(just some ground truth and not related other than a date, Ernst Steigleder sought protection under DRGM Nr. 232449 on July 20th 1904 for a breech-block mechanism). So a date range for this drilling is 1905 - 1908."

Maybe the owner that found protection ponied up the additional 60 marks for an additional 3 years of protection putting the period to 1910 or 1911 which would pair well with the applied marks.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Raimey, here are some pics of the lugs and also the DU marks near the forearm hanger


notice how the letters are opposite ?




I am guessing 24X4XX I used the X for numbers I could not read, also the 3 numbers I read as 7 XX.

Notice the M with the crown above it?

Again I am a novice at this.