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#392312 01/31/15 11:23 AM
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Gentlemen, I am new to this site. I was told on another hunting site that you folks could possibly help me identify this beautifully crafted piece.

It is a drilling that is marked 16/1 on the shotgun barrels and 10.7 mm on the rifle barrel.

The wood is well worm but the metal is in perfect shape.

Is the 10.7 a black powder load? Can brass be bought of formed for this piece.

I was told it has never been fired since it was sent home.

On the rib it is marked Albert Latz Euskirchen. On the tang below the second lever it is inlaid sicher which I was told is German for safety. Krupp is marked on the barrels under the forearm.

On the cover for extra rifle rounds on the underside of the stock it is marked Gustav (or Gustay) Windeck.

Here are a few photos









It is not for sale but I would be interested in the value. It was brought back from Germany by a good friend who fought in WWII.

Thank's for looking.

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I really fancy that selector on the top tang. It looks to be post 1912 & pre-1923. It is some unique Blitz action with a pretty big bore. Is the word "Nitro" on either side of the scattergun tubes? You are probably going to have to make a chamber cast or make a best guess at cartridge length. Ford can tell you what parent case from which to form the brass.

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Can you snap an image of the Powder type, military flake?, near the 10.7mm stamp? There might be some odd 1g111 weight stamp?

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Raimey
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Congratulatio! You own a gun of the inventor of the dogcake, Albert Latz from Euskirchen, who lived from von 1855 - 1923. Raimey was right with his time estimate.

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Gunwolf:
Do you mean biscuit?

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Raimey
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Yes, Raimey, Biscuit for dogs!I'm living 10 kilometers from Euskirchen.
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That's a left handed drilling....unless you somehow got the pictures turned around or it has a cheek rest on both sides. I have seen that done as after market.

I don't have the best references for the older cartridges and there are few 10.7's listed in what I have. A chamber cast, as Raimey suggested, would be best and remove all doubt. Casting the chamber is always best anyway. Just because a firearm was stamped as some particular cartridge when it was made doesn't mean it still is.....ask me how I know that.


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In german we call it "Hundekuchen".
So the gun has a nice provenience. Big Redneck, I think your friend fought in the Ardennen Offensive in the last days of WW II....

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Wolfgang:
Was Albert Latz of Euskirchen a Southpaw(left handed)? My paternal Grandfather was there at the event.

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Raimey, I don't know.
Wikipedia: http://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Latz

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Wolfgang

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