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Very different views Steve, but that's ok. I'm not so sure we're fighting any country, but the threat of invasion should be on the table for any country that threatens the security of the US. We don't need to invade the entire middle east, just have strategic bases.

Now, nuts and bolts time, what can we do better as a country. I don't suspect we're better off likening a previous president to a stain, or by ignoring, out of sight out of mind, the iranian inconvenience. Since they're in the neighborhood, do you see iran as any sort of a regional or world problem.

Sure I do Craig. I see the same in North Korea, and with the recent Russian aggression among other problem places in the world. I think invasion should be on the table as well, as a last resort.

I do not think invading countries to establish strategic bases is an ethical way forward for our country. If it is, how are we any different from the Russians? How many more countries need to be invaded to establish these much needed bases? If these bases were the true reason for us going to war, do you feel that the public should have been told or you OK with the WMD story? Is it possible that policies along those lines contribute to the feeling in the mid-east that the USA is promoting imperialism for its own benefit?

What can we do better as country? lets look real hard at last weekends quote by Mr. Paul again.

"I do think diplomacy is better than war."

That would be an excellent place to start.

Too bad we can't all agree on a face of true evil because, at this point, America could really make good use of a scapegoat. We need something to blame for our problems.

People hold strong beliefs about what America is and we desperately want events to align with our ideals. Unfortunately, lots of stuff has gotten all fucked up lately. Stuff like Iraq. Suddenly views previously held as unquestionable are increasingly coming into doubt. This makes people upset and pissed. If I was an old man, looking upon what has become of my once great country, I too would be pissed. Then I would get very drunk.

We need something or someone to blame. Soros, Bush, Obama, Libtards, Neocons�.whomever. Alternatively, some pretend all is well. I think King Brown tries to do the latter, and why not?

In the old days we�d burn a witch at the stake and all feel better. Now we just call each other stupid -or put them on the ignore list. Most of you would probably get along in real life.

North korea is an example I had thought about, relative peace and stability for some sixty years....by planting a US military base on the DMZ. What a waste eh, but then again maybe preferable to letting Gen. Mac. roll into china, then again maybe a huge mistake not to let him roll.

WMD's, inconvenient, but they're there and some are accounted for. Is it enough, maybe not, but it's a reason that has been shown to be true, even if not agreeable with the left or right.

I'm not too worried about what the world 'thought' about us. Do you think they'd attack NY, oh wait a minute they had already done that. Best scenario, it's the video.

If you look back, as distasteful as it is, the un, meaning the negotiators that can fix anything, passed umpteenth resolutions against iraq with a truck load of negotiating. You're not putting words in my mouth that diplomacy shouldn't be tried first, or second, or third, etc. Do you have an answer for when's enough. Paul's an isolationist at all cost, he probably wouldn't let English doubles ship.