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Dave, I cut all these guys some slack. We never know the full story. While writing the history of an elite Canadian regiment, I learned of a company commander who wouldn't come to the Start Line for an attack, exhausted, battle fatigue, a leader during the Dieppe raid, fought his way with distinction from D-Day, his regiment never failing to take its objective. After the war banned from the regiment's officers' mess.

Later, interested in LMF courts martial---Lack of Moral Fibre--I corresponded with several RCAF veterans of our No. 6 Bomber Group overseas who were interested in writing a book about it. They felt that those who broke down weren't cowards. Canada at the end of the war had the world's fourth largest air force. Casualties during American day and Commonwealth night raids were enormous.

I think there was mention of Bergdahl's action giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Whatever aid he gave to the enemy, it couldn't compare with the fragging of officers by soldiers in Vietnam, fatalities (from my memory), at more than a thousand, approaching those killed in battle---disloyalty to country and aiding the enemy far beyond Bergdahl if he deserted, and most of the murderers got away with it.

Deserters deserve punishment. From my interest in LMF, and been scared to death in battles myself, I wonder about the circumstances of wilful desertion and mental breakdown. You're probably aware that Canada is only member of the coalition against ISIS on the front line. Several fire fights in the last week. It's raising hell in the House of Commons. PTSD will become part of it.


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Originally Posted By: craigd
bo decided to parade these parents in a photo op at the speed of light.


Even his parents looked and acted like Islamic radicals....

Sit back and watch if Bergdahl isn't locked up he will commit an act of terrorism.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown




Kingfish no one wants to hear your socialist/communist rhetoric.

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Unlike most criticizing him here he signed up to put on uniform and serve this country. I'm willing to cut him some slack and given time plus chance he may yet become productive member our our society.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
Unlike most criticizing him here he signed up to put on uniform and serve this country. I'm willing to cut him some slack and given time plus chance he may yet become productive member our our society.


The person that signed up and the UCMJ criminal are two different 'people'. But of course you would cut him slack, didn't you sign here for a different reason than the fellow you are now that has no use for double guns. Did you give any thought to the folks that signed up, put the uniform on, and died on search and rescue missions for this knuckle head.

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I know, Joe. It's just that I've seen more than a few broken soldiers. Two are in my village, one a hunting buddy comforted by a great Chesapeake, both persons under medications. Neither deserted, quite the opposite as they soldiered on to breakdown, but the thought of hangin' them high without knowing all the circumstances disturbs me. If that's socialist/communist rhetoric, so be it. I owe them my respect for their service.

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Bergdahl if found guilty should be executed.

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It's just that I've seen more than a few broken soldiers. Two are in my village, one a hunting buddy comforted by a great Chesapeake, both persons under medications.


If mentally broken the truth is most likely they were all ready mentally broken....just like people like you that are easily disturbed over nothing.

What did Patton tell the mentally broken soldier laying in the hospital bed ?




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At least 6 others solders died trying to get him back after walked off !

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/01/us/bergdahl-deserter-or-hero/index.html

According to firsthand accounts from soldiers in his platoon, Bergdahl, while on guard duty, shed his weapons and walked off the observation post with nothing more than a compass, a knife, water, a digital camera and a diary.

At least six soldiers were killed in subsequent searches for him, according to soldiers involved in the operations to find him. The Pentagon was not able to provide details on specific operations in which any soldiers killed during that time were involved.

Also, many soldiers in Bergdahl's platoon said attacks seemed to increase against the United States in Paktika province in the days and weeks following his disappearance.

"Any of us would have died for him while he was with us, and then for him to just leave us like that, it was a very big betrayal," said former U.S. Army Sgt. Josh Korder, who has the name of three soldiers who died while searching for Bergdahl tatooed on his back


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
I know, Joe. It's just that I've seen more than a few broken soldiers. Two are in my village, one a hunting buddy comforted by a great Chesapeake, both persons under medications. Neither deserted, quite the opposite as they soldiered on to breakdown, but the thought of hangin' them high without knowing all the circumstances disturbs me. If that's socialist/communist rhetoric, so be it. I owe them my respect for their service.


DaveK, is King trying to say we would hang deserters without a trial? Or maybe that's just how Canada does things. We all know that if King the Liar says it, it must be true... right?

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I think there was mention of Bergdahl's action giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Whatever aid he gave to the enemy, it couldn't compare with the fragging of officers by soldiers in Vietnam, fatalities (from my memory), at more than a thousand, approaching those killed in battle---disloyalty to country and aiding the enemy far beyond Bergdahl if he deserted, and most of the murderers got away with it.

Deserters deserve punishment. From my interest in LMF, and been scared to death in battles myself, I wonder about the circumstances of wilful desertion and mental breakdown.


The number of U.S. deaths in Viet Nam due to fragging varies from 45 to the over 1200 used by Libtards like King. Total U.S. deaths in that conflict from all causes was 38,196. If roughly 1 in 32 deaths in Viet Nam was really due to mutinous acts as Liars like King would have us believe, I really think it would have gotten more attention. It does appear that of the fragging incidents that were investigated, over 88% were done by soldiers who were substance abusers, and the rise of fragging coincided with the rise of drug abuse by soldiers. But figures lie and liars figure, right King?

What battles were you in King? We've never heard the stories of your war years.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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I also believe that most of the fragging incidents were done by substance abusers. I'm also betting most were done in units where there was little control over the activities of enlisted men who were "off duty." In my unit, we were always doing something with the supervision of our first sergeant and/or gunny. We were not allowed to sit around and stew in our own juices about all the inequities of our situation.This was explained to us and the "Gunny" was working right along side of us on projects that were often to our benefit. We had "hot" water in our showers thanks to some pontoons and a pipeline bringing water into them that was heated by the sun.Just wanted to say this for the last 50 years.Thank you "Gunny Scott" and 1st sergeant Ward,C company 3rd Recon Battalion.

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