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Redistribution is the Christian way, Craig, supported by those who believe and don't believe because it builds stronger societies. The countries who support it most strongly, my guess, are those that are more secular i.e. northern and western Europe and Canada. Take a look at UN happiness index. We are blessed. The Spirit flourishes.

King, don't you find it odd, the inherent contradiction of this statement? "The Christian way"...."more secular"?? Which is it??

Lets see. I started this thread with a post that clearly shows that socialist "redistribution" of wealth is a sick farce.
Now we are at the point where an admitted athiest is claiming it's the "Christian way".
So I guess one can assume that Christians are far superior to athiests when it come to having a social conscience!
Hypocritical implication?? You Bet!!

Jim, in just about every analysis I have ever seen about charitable giving, the greater the proportion of avowed Christians and the more conservative the political leanings of a given population, the higher as a percentage of income will be the giving.

Secularists substitute a mandatory state authorized confiscatory system that removes personal connection and choice from charity and then vilify those who object as selfish.

Here it is, James, from December 2013 Globe and Mail:

"Nearly all Canadians say they give to charity in some form. The statistical trend, however, shows that fewer people are claiming tax deductions for their donations. And few people have a sense of how much a good citizen is expected to give.

On average, Canadians give a little less than 1 per cent (0.8) of their annual income to charity. But there are significant differences between communities.

So what do we know about who gives and how much?

The people of the Prairies file for charitable tax deductions at the highest rates, with more than a quarter of all tax filers claiming a donation, making Manitoba and Saskatchewan, by one measure, the most generous provinces in the country.

But when Statistics Canada asked people about whether they made a donation to a charitable cause, the four Atlantic provinces had the highest rates, ranging from 88 per cent in New Brunswick to 92 per cent in Newfoundland and Labrador. British Columbia had the lowest at 80 per cent.

About 85 per cent of Quebeckers said they made a donation in 2010, but tax data from 2011 showed they donated just 0.36 per cent of their income, the lowest percentage in the country.

More broadly we know that women tend to give more than men. The old give more than the young. The religious give more than the non-religious. And university graduates give more than those who didn�t attend university."

James, how to explain mostly liberal Atlantic Provinces up there with donations, most populous and mostly conservative Ontario not even mentioned and "most generous" Manitoba and Saskatchewan of mostly "socialist" persuasions at the top?

King, can't speak for Saskatchewan but I can for Manitoba.

When one delves into the numbers, it is clear the reason Manitoba ranks so high (the highest)is because of the charitable inclinations of it's large Mennonite population. While there are some of what one might call Old Order Mennonites of the horse and buggy persuasion, the vast majority are full fledged members of modern society with a strong Christian bent. Their population base is south central and south east Manitoba, below Winnipeg and Winnipeg itself. Outside Winnipeg, in areas where they dominate the population mix, they elect almost exclusively CPC MP's.

Strongly Christian and strongly conservative. And very strongly committed in both financial terms as well as personal effort around the world, to helping their less fortunate fellow man.

Mostly Conservative Ontario???? Mostly Liberal Maritimes??? They both are the definition of swing regions. Ontario votes the way the wind is blowing. Maritimes vote for who promises the most. Take the GTA out of the equation, then lets see the numbers.

King, please read this again and comment. Is it not one of the favorite slanders of the right by the left that they are selfish????

Thanks King for your brutal honesty. I don't know a thing about their accuracy, but the numbers show an amazing comfort with less than honesty. You were not kidding when you said, 'everyone does it'. Are these folks really 'happier' or just polling happier because of some conditioned auto response. My suspicion would be to look at early education agenda influences.

Back to the tax link. Regardless of the rhetoric, the 'facts' seem to say that Canadians turn to the gov in this manner of helping those in need, when donations are elective based on the desires of the individual.

No, I may not be thinking properly this morning but I don't see a contradiction. I believe Christianity is the foundation of western civilization. It evolved rapidly in many directions from its beginning. Churches scuppered a lot of their canons as myths---which was the sentiment in spades for my father's conversion---but the Christian ethos is firmly planted within the secular.

Jim, I've explained here that I don't know what I am. I don't buy the whole thing, all the myths. Neither do most religions and denominations. I don't know if that excludes me from being a Christian so I say I'm an atheist until I figure it out or Another does it for me.

yes J.R.B., you asked. And you got exactly what you knew you'd get... a Libtard analysis with the Liberal biased Wikipedia as a source.

Actually, the comparison of U.S. vs Canadian tax rates is much more complex than King would have us believe. Buy even if you do believe his facts and figures, one thing jumps out at you, and even King points this anomaly out. Using King's own figures, taxes as a percentage of GDP are almost identical, but for some reason, U.S. citizens are getting less bang for their buck when it comes to Gov't. funded health care, education, and certain intangibles like happiness. Obviously, something is amiss. Conservatives and TEA Party members are justifiably upset, yet Liberals here wish to raise taxes even more and continually add on more hidden taxes and fees. King concurs and calls us selfish for not wishing to continue paying more and getting less.

According to this Canadian News source, it seems that, contrary to King's personal feelings, the majority of Canadians are no happier about seeing so much of their money taken by the tax man than we are... even though they get more in return.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011/04/30/18087141.html

We see here that about 33.4% of Canadians pay no tax while the number for the U.S, is 45%. Some sources put that U.S. figure at over 50%. The figure gets skewed because unemployment is taxable. This allows Liberals to claim that recipients are taxpayers because they have to give back a small percentage of their free money. No matter, because either way, that's a lot of people with no skin in the game who are still able to vote themselves even more freebies. The higher that figure goes, the sooner that the freeloaders will have a large enough voting bloc to ensure that the treasury will be drained and the nation will inevitably become insolvent.

King often says we're selfish, but look, a smaller number of us percentage-wise are supporting more freeloaders than the average Canadian. Suddenly we see who's really selfish, and who is simply a stupid agenda driven Libtard.

I don't know how we truly get an accurate picture. It sure isn't from Wikipedia, and we know we cannot rely upon King for accurate figures when they won't support his stated agenda. Remember, he sees Misfires as this dangerous Conservative Blog, and has made it his mission to counter our horrific ideology of greater personal freedom and self-reliance. But as this article states, comparing the tax stats between our two countries is like comparing the stats of a Hockey player vs. a Basketball player... apples to oranges if you will.

http://www.investopedia.com/financial-ed...-americans.aspx

The figures in this article are quite a bit different than King's Wikipedia source. But King is a one trick pony and knows where to find reliably Liberal oats and horseshit. The guy who talks about fact-checkers up the yin-yang can't be bothered checking multiple sources and sorting wheat from chaff. It makes you wonder if he was just as sloppy and biased as a Journalist. Really, you don't have to wonder very long or hard, and if you take a bit of time to do your own due diligence, King's credibility goes deeper in the red than an Obama/Liberal Dumbocrat budget.