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Tom Regal...My guess would be about 1899 for the 1894 you're looking at....Hope you don't mind, while we're on the subject of dating 1894's, I would like to add another '94 dating question..Has anyone figured out what year Remington switched the production of the 1894 (and 1900)to the improved lock system? So far the lowest serial number with the improved lock that I have found is 136,000 range for the '94, and 367,000 range for the 1900. If a date could be agreed upon as the cut-off for the old lock system, then any with the improved lock could be considered post 1906 (guessing)...at a glance...Charlie didn't know...and Art McKee isn't saying...
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I know we had a thread on this in the past but I could not find it in search. Can you tell me how to determine if I have an improved lock system?
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Sorry, my camera is loaned out at the moment, but I'll post pictures later for those who don't have Rem doubles to look at while following this thread...The improved system can be spotted across the isle at a gunshow by simply noting the distance between the sear lever axel and the stock face. On the regular lock the distance is about 1/8 inch...on the improved lock, the distance is about 1/4 inch, giving the sear lever a greater mechanical advantage. The parts are not interchangable of course and I've also noted differences in the stock face, perhaps the improved '94 has a taller action for more strength like Trap Grade Smiths...
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 I couldn't wait for camera, so I've tried to point it out using photo from this thread...hope this works
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Thanks for the info Robert. I wanted to respond to your post above but did not know which lock I have. My 127,xxx has the standard lock.
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Does the "improved lock" equate to the change from the firingpin being integral with the hammer or being separate? In the parts lists in my catalogues through 1906 the hammers with the integral firing pin are shown. I don't have anything for 1907, but the 1908 and 1909 show the separate firing pins.
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Could someone be so kind as to look in Semmer's book and tell me what Remington called the damascus on 1894 E/D Grades? Were the B Grades also "Oxford" like the A Grades?
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yes, I think so...the separate firing pins are part of the improved lock system, at least for the '94...you'll have to give me some time to say for the 1900...But who can tell exactly when each improvement was incorporated...I have many more questions than answers...were all improved lock '94's four bite?... are all improved 1900's two bite? Do the two bite, three bite, and four bite lock-ups coincide with other keystone changes? All of these variations should be considered when dating a Rem SxS...I don't have Semmer's book, are these topics covered? Was this info discussed here, in the past, and I missed it?
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Dave,
I went out and checked nine of my Remingtons and they are about half and half integral pins/floating pins. All of the floating ones were on what Robert calls the improved lock. All of the integral pin guns were on the "standard lock". Thanks for the tip Robert. Im always amazed at what other people notice. I examined my two C grades side by side, compared them to each other and never noticed the different pin position that Robert pointed out or that the ARMS engraved on the older gun was engraved AMRS which Researcher pointed out.
I will look at the serial numbers on my guns and see what the different locks are.
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