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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Most of the fulminations here against liberals reflects how quickly a conservative ethos is eroding and a desire to get it back. Turning back isn't happening nor will it on the evidence.


Yep, and that's why anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats swept the Midterm Elections and retained control of the Senate...

Oh crap! No they didn't. They got their asses handed to them. Even after they distanced themselves from Obama, they got creamed. This is just another one of King Brown's many lies... on the evidence!

Originally Posted By: ed good
sho nuff!

who said, "telling lies enough times will create the illusion of truths"?



I believe that was King Brown! On the evidence.

Dishonesty is not civility King.


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Originally Posted By: ed good
i am going away for a while...i need a break from this...


ed, ed... where are you? Don't go. I'm your only friend here. Everyone else ignores you, but I think we were on the verge of a real breakthrough. I think you were close to admitting you have a serious mental problem as a Libtard and an anti-gunner, and that's the first step to a cure.

If black ex- Baltimore Ravens player Ray Rice's girlfriend can stay with him after he knocked her out cold, you can stay here with me. Don't leave ed. I'll even talk like a negro with you.

Besides, you'll be missing out on all the good times we have here. Your ex-friend King who abandoned you should be along shortly to tell us how Dr. Jerry Bull outfitted the PT-109 with a massive ultra-high velocity Punt Gun so that he and his friend John F. Kennedy and Saddam Hussein could become market hunters and shoot millions of non-Kosher ducks on the moon.

ed, do you remember how King Brown used to respond to you even when you hadn't said anything to him, just because he was pretending to ignore me? He just used you and discarded you like so much soiled Charmin toilet paper. There's no excuse for that behaviour, and I don't know why our esteemed host put up with it. It was a disservice to all members... and you in particular.

Thank goodness we still have this picture of you and the Burger King during better times:

http://giphy.com/gifs/cheeseburger-good-burger-kel-mitchell-WyVWNxwIs154Y


ed, y'all come back rat now, ya heer! Don't makes me ax yo' agin. I'se gonna has the Jew-boy Israeli Mossad come getcha an' bust a cap in yo' ass, since theys here to get Dr. Bull anyways. ed, where is yo' bro'? I can't breathe... I can't breathe!... Hands up!... Don't Shoot!

Hey ed, we can have a "Die-In" and clog up all the traffic here in Misfires. ed, ed... where is yo'? Only 15 Looting Days 'till Kwaanza ed.


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King " Most resign themselves to it because liberalism proceeds despite every change of governance. Blather only makes the diehards feel better."

You must be kidding,the only liberalism is "proceeding" is further and further into the abyss of the minority-the last shellacking in Nov proves that out.



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Dave, do you remember James saying he wanted his son back, meaning he's been captured by aspects of liberalism which he felt was bloody nonsense? And liberalism is so dominant in our culture that it's nigh on hopeless to anticipate turning it back? I agree with him totally.

James and I think of liberal within the context of modern societies. The United States is a rare exception because a peculiar political polarization has created a new nomenclature as evidenced here in daily Misfires: all liberals are inherently evil, only GOP and Tea Party conservatives can serve the country.

Please consider numerous Democrat shellackings over the last 75 years haven't slowed by an inch the inexorable wish of Americans---Republicans and Democrats---for a more tolerant society toward civil rights and minorities, gay rights, interracial marriage, AIDS, don't tell, capital punishment etc.

I saw this first-hand in a recent reconnaissance of old stamping grounds in Washington and Kentucky with Democrats and Republicans (and turned down a Mitch-arranged tour of Congress for Kentucky moderates to take in the Hirshorn. Americans share "progressive" values.

Suggest google definition of liberalism. You'll see from these snippets liberals are as divided on policy and values as conservatives. That's a good thing.

"Some liberals believe that freedom is impossible without equality, and that governments should promote equality by providing education and health care supported by taxes. Other liberals believe that taxes are bad, and that people should provide their own education and health care; these people are usually called libertarians today. Most liberal governments today do provide at least some education and health care, though not necessarily equally for all citizens.

"Other concepts important to some liberals include:

"In the old days, kings or queens told people what to do (a form of government called a Monarchy), and there was very little freedom. A few hundred years ago, philosophers such as Simón Bolívar, John Stuart Mill and Jeremy Bentham began to write about freedom. Earlier writers, such as Marcus Aurelius, had written about freedom, but this time the idea caught on. The United States of America was the first country to have a constitution which was based on the ideas of Mill and Bentham, and which guaranteed certain rights to all citizens, including freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, the right to assemble (get together in groups), the right to bear arms (weapons), and the right to ask their government to take action (right of petition) or to remove from office rulers they did not like (right of referendum).


"Most of the wealthy countries in the world today are liberal democracies with more or less free trade. An exception to this rule are the oil-rich countries, not all of which are liberal or democratic. Most of the poor countries in the world are dictatorships, with heavy restrictions on trade. China is a poor country which is rapidly becoming rich, and is trying the experiment of combining dictatorship with free trade. Whether it is possible to have the advantages of free trade without other freedoms remains to be seen."

"The government of the United States was created based on a belief in Democracy and personal freedom. However the word "liberalism" has taken on a different meaning in modern times. Liberals in the United States still believe in supporting democracy and freedom, however many liberals also support other ideas. While not all liberals agree on everything, most liberals in the United States agree:

"That equal opportunity for all people is a good goal.
That government should provide some level of education and healthcare to all people, even if some taxes have to be increased to achieve this goal
That richer people should pay more of their income in taxes than poor people
That liberties and freedoms are very important and should be protected.
Most liberals in the United States believe that peace is at least somewhat important, and that government should work together with other countries and not start as many wars on their own."

"Liberals in the United States are also sometimes called "Progressives". The biggest liberal political party in the United States is the Democratic Party. But the Green Party is seen to be more 'left', or liberal than the Democrats."

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....liberalism is so dominant in our culture that it's nigh on hopeless to anticipate turning it back? I agree with him totally.

James and I think of liberal within the context of modern societies. The United States is a rare exception because a peculiar political polarization has created a new nomenclature as evidenced here in daily Misfires: all liberals are inherently evil, only GOP and Tea Party conservatives can serve the country....


Rare exception? There seems to be an eager willingness to demonize anyone one with a bit of a right leaning position. You don't suppose the left, as a stereotype, has anything at all to do with polarization.

In modern societies, those that rigidly follow sharia law may be the most rapidly proliferating 'culture'. Do you consider them brothers and sisters of the inevitable liberal takeover.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....liberalism is so dominant in our culture that it's nigh on hopeless to anticipate turning it back? I agree with him totally.

James and I think of liberal within the context of modern societies. The United States is a rare exception because a peculiar political polarization has created a new nomenclature as evidenced here in daily Misfires: all liberals are inherently evil, only GOP and Tea Party conservatives can serve the country....


Rare exception? There seems to be an eager willingness to demonize anyone one with a bit of a right leaning position. You don't suppose the left, as a stereotype, has anything at all to do with polarization.

In modern societies, those that rigidly follow sharia law may be the most rapidly proliferating 'culture'. Do you consider them brothers and sisters of the inevitable liberal takeover.


I just have to add to this that I don't think the polarization and demonization is the exclusive domain of the right. This just happens to be a forum that is more likely to be populated by those on the right. King, read the on line comments in the Globe daily, find any on line forum that attracts "progressives" and be ready for the hate filled speech demonization of the right. No side is free from it. And frankly, it's my opinion that the modern day level of this stuff was pioneered by the left. By the attacks on personal appearances and mannerisms rather than policies.

Jeez, one more post and I cross the 2000 threshold. Lol

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
"That equal opportunity for all people is a good goal.
That government should provide some level of education and healthcare to all people, even if some taxes have to be increased to achieve this goal
That richer people should pay more of their income in taxes than poor people
That liberties and freedoms are very important and should be protected.
Most liberals in the United States believe that peace is at least somewhat important, and that government should work together with other countries and not start as many wars on their own."

"Liberals in the United States are also sometimes called "Progressives". The biggest liberal political party in the United States is the Democratic Party. But the Green Party is seen to be more 'left', or liberal than the Democrats."


Doesn't King Browns lengthy post sound wonderful?

Too bad that it is almost complete hogwash and bullshit. Great points, craigd and James, on the venom filled hate and hypocrisy of present day Liberals. I'd like to dissect King's blatantly dishonest post and cherry-picked Google search definitions of Liberalism a bit more:

Referring to the nonsense which I quoted from King's post above, "That equal opportunity for all people is a good goal." Conservatives agree... but thanks to Libtards, equal opportunity means that there shall be gross inequalities such as Affirmative Action, and extra opportunities for lesser qualified students and workers, to punish mainly white people for sins they did not commit.

"That government should provide some level of education and healthcare to all people, even if some taxes have to be increased to achieve this goal" However, massively increased education spending has not had the desired or promised effect. In fact, it has had the opposite effect, yet Liberal Democrats protect the NEA and fight school choice even though alternatives to increasingly expensive public schools are proven to do a better job at less cost. King lied to us a couple days ago when he stated that black vs. white graduation rates were now virtually equal. 78% for whites vs. 47% for blacks is hardly equal unless you use dishonest Libtard math. And wealth redistribution disguised as national healthcare certainly is not equal or fair to those whose pockets are being picked to support or subsidize non-productive citizens.

"That richer people should pay more of their income in taxes than poor people" Wait a minute... doesn't this directly contradict the EQUAL OPPORTUNITY which Libtards like King feel is a "good goal"? There is nothing equal about penalizing certain people for being more productive. Can I force an unemployed Welfare person to cut my grass or repair my roof while I am working harder and having my earnings from my labor confiscated to feed and support them?

"That liberties and freedoms are very important and should be protected." This one is perhaps the most dishonest of all... especially coming from a gun control advocate like King. King Brown must be a gun control advocate because he supports and defends the most vehemently anti-gun politicians from the Liberal Left Democrat Party. Virtually all of the infringements on our Constitutional 2nd Amendment Rights come from the Liberal Democrat Left. It is the Liberal Left that wishes to limit 1st Amendment broadcast and print content of a Conservative bent. It is the Liberal Left that will expel a child for wearing an NRA tee-shirt to school. It is the Liberal Left that enacts laws to control what we eat and drink, and imposes "sin taxes" to punish those who wish to exercise liberties that they (the enlightened Liberals) don't like or approve of. It is the Liberal Left that used the IRS to target Conservatives. It is the Liberal Left that demonizes common-sense efforts to protect the integrity of free and fair elections and disenfranchise nobody.

"Most liberals in the United States believe that peace is at least somewhat important, and that government should work together with other countries and not start as many wars on their own." What a joke. Except it is not at all funny that the foreign policy blunders of the Liberal Leftists over the past 6 years have emboldened and strengthened the enemies of freedom and liberty, and made the world much more prone to future wars and attacks upon us. No Conservative wants or likes war. But someone will end up cleaning up the mess that Obama and Co. have made, and they will be branded as warmongers by those who screwed things up mightily.

"But the Green Party is seen to be more 'left', or liberal than the Democrats."

I really liked this little statement, because it takes us back to King Brown's oft repeated intentionally misleading statement about having never voted Liberal. Yet he admitted voting for Green Party candidates knowing full well that they are nothing but Leftist Liberals by another name... even further Left than Democrats according to his Google quote.

King frequently says, "A lie is saying something you know not to be true." Bingo! Thanks for shooting yourself in the foot and illustrating that your "craft of Journalism" is nothing more than lies and dishonest Weasel Words.

All Liberals or Libtards are not inherently evil. Many, like ed, are just stupid and do not have the capacity to realize that they have been victims of lies and propaganda. Others, like you King... the type who continually lie and invoke Scripture or Weasel Words to subvert the truth... in my opinion have hearts blacker than Satan.


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I couldn't have responded better myself Keith. Everyone of his bullets on the surface has merit until you delve into them.
I still remember the cry of the Libtards leftists back in the 60s "Better Red than Dead".
On the surface this could seem a reasonable aproach to some people. However; That's until you take a hard look at what you really would lose if we caved into a socialist society.
I frankly would rather be dead.
Jim


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James and Craig: thanks for your comments. We're not far off in our observations of liberalism's trend and "an eager willingness to demonize anyone with a right-leaning position."

There's no question that most of the poking and pointing fingers is coming from the left. It's what people do when they believe things are going their way. Bullying doesn't put a too-fine point on it.

The three of us differ widely on notions of governance while sharing common values. As for muslims, Arabic is the second language in our provincial capital of Halifax, and federal policy is for "reasonable accommodation."

Muslim citizenship is welcome on condition of accepting Canadian cultural values.

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Have you chosen your death pill, Jim? You're living in a socialist society. The Pentagon alone is spending tens of billions for arms the military says it doesn't want. Eisenhower warned America of the military-industrial complex and John McCain added another word: "military-industrial-congressional complex." We're living in a mixed economy where nothing big is done without our tax dollars. When Wall Street falls flat, whose pocket is picked to put its eggs back on the wall again---yours. You call that capitalism or free enterprise?

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