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Need Help With Rifle Identification #386786 12/10/14 11:52 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,438 Arizona James M OP Sidelock
OP James M Sidelock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,438 Arizona	I was brought this Pennsylvania rifle for a cleaning and evalustion. However I can't make out the name plate on the barrel on it. I'd appreciate and help you can provide and also anyones estimate of value. It's a full stock unconverted flintlock that the current owner tells me was fired by his father about 20 years ago. The lock is unsigned Jim Last edited by James M; 12/10/14 11:53 AM. The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.

Re: Need Help With Rifle Identification James M #386791 12/10/14 12:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 227 Likes: 7 375whelenIMP Sidelock
375whelenIMP Sidelock Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 227 Likes: 7	http://www.earmi.it/USA%20Gunmakers/R.html Not a complete list but a few Roberts on it that might be worth looking into

Re: Need Help With Rifle Identification James M #386813 12/10/14 03:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,438 Arizona James M OP Sidelock
OP James M Sidelock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,438 Arizona	Thanks for the list John but He's not any of the Roberts listed either too late or wrong type firearm. I actually think the name is likely Rekerts and I'm hoping someone can verify this. Jim The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.

Re: Need Help With Rifle Identification James M #386818 12/10/14 03:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 165 Likes: 1 m-4 Sidelock
m-4 Sidelock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 165 Likes: 1	Stockel shows a Peter Roberts, Lancaster Pa/USA erw 1871-76 512 Church str Thomas Roberts, Portsmouth,VA/USA erw 1871-73 106 Croford str Didn't show any gunmakers named Rekerts. do you have an idea of date of manufacture? m-4

Re: Need Help With Rifle Identification James M #386822 12/10/14 04:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,438 Arizona James M OP Sidelock
OP James M Sidelock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,438 Arizona	m-4: Since this is an unconverted flintlock those makers seem to be working too late to be the ones for this rifle. I have other pictures but they don't show anything really exceptional. However I should add this is a curley maple full stock about 50 cal rifle. Jim The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.

Re: Need Help With Rifle Identification James M #386942 12/11/14 02:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9 bcowern Boxlock
bcowern Boxlock Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9	Try posting your rifle and question on the americanlongrifles.org forum. http://www.americanlongrifles.org/forum/ Regards, Bradford

Re: Need Help With Rifle Identification James M #386972 12/11/14 05:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 624 Bend,OR Terry Buffum Sidelock
Terry Buffum Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 624 Bend,OR	The patch box may help with identification, so a photo of that would help, too, Is the barrel held into the stock with pins or keys? A photo of that detail would also be helpful.

Re: Need Help With Rifle Identification James M #387005 12/11/14 08:24 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,398 Likes: 16 SDH-MT Sidelock
SDH-MT Sidelock Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,398 Likes: 16	It looks like a very late flintlock with separate pan and flash shield, but the pics don't show anything except it sure looks like Roberts to me.

Re: Need Help With Rifle Identification James M #387026 12/11/14 10:52 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 641 Likes: 2 Puryear, TN xausa Sidelock
xausa Sidelock Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 641 Likes: 2 Puryear, TN	Could "Roberts" be the name of the owner, rather than the name of the maker?

Re: Need Help With Rifle Identification James M #387029 12/11/14 11:01 PM
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 150 Likes: 2 Colorado Chuckster Sidelock
Chuckster Sidelock Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 150 Likes: 2 Colorado	May be wrong, but that rifle has the feel of being modern made. Something about the lock panels just does not fit with an old rifle of that era. Some very good modern makers have been working since the 30's. Some of my rifles made in the 50's and 60's and well used have developed a patina that is hard to tell from well cared for originals. Chuck

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