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coal and petroleum save lives. we need to use up all the fossil fuels as fast as we can so we have to go with practical alternatives.

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If it doesn't go by pipeline, it will go by rail. And with it, the increase in catastrophic derailments. Just ask the people of Quebec how much they like crude being transported by rail after a derailment last year incinerated the downtown of a small town and the 50 people who were nearby.


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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
I don't claim to know the answer, Ted. You're right that people smarter than me will have to figure it out. And they can. As they do, many more new kinds of jobs will be created than will be lost as we gradually move away from a reliance on fossil fuels. The current debate seems to come down to this: will we have profits at any cost as long as possible or will we balance the long-term damages to air and water against economic gain? Coal and power companies don't account for the environmental damage they cause. I happen to think they should have to.


If all teachers are like bill, it's little wonder that U.S. students are lagging behind the rest of the world in so many subjects.

Perhaps we should all go back to the good old days before coal and power companies when we had a higher standard of living... oops, we didn't. Or when we were healthier and had a longer life expectancy... oops, we didn't have that either.

Of course, that all comes from a brainchild who apparently thinks that power companies are not subject to any environmental rules and regulations. I'm surprised that canvasback didn't catch bill's statement that Canada has almost no environmental regulation. Maybe Teacher bill is confusing Canada with China.

And then there's those illusory and very temporary pipeline building jobs that bill tells us will be a flash in the pan. Gee, aren't all construction jobs like that? You build a house, bridge, skyscraper, dam, or pipeline, and move on to the next job. Unless someone like Obama is preventing that next job.

Did bill really ask us if Obama shouldn't get some of the credit for increased U.S Oil Production??? No bill, but your boy does get credit for trying to infringe upon gun owner's Constitutional Rights. That's the kind of politician you support and defend.

Maybe we should stop all construction and put all those guys and their families on Welfare and Food Stamps. Then maybe they'll all vote for anti-gun Liberal Democrats like bill does. And I guess that no-one will perform inspection, maintenance, repair, or control transmission of product, let alone work at onload, offload, refining, or shipping facilities. And bill certainly hasn't grasped that supply and demand thing, or noticed that petroleum is traded on global markets. Or maybe he likes letting OPEC having the ability to lower production on a whim, and screw our collective eyes out while financing terrorism at the same time.

Mostly, I wonder if rocky mtn bill has gone off the grid himself, and given up his dirty petroleum burning car and coal or nuclear powered creature comforts. I'd like to know what clean, economical, and sustainable form of power he has switched to as he piously tells us that we are all wrong.

Ted, bill tells us that someone smarter than him will have to figure out the answer to fossil fuels. So we're hoping and betting on just about anyone with an intelligence level greater than a box of rocks.


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Originally Posted By: keith


I'm surprised that canvasback didn't catch bill's statement that Canada has almost no environmental regulation. Maybe Teacher bill is confusing Canada with China.


Had a really busy week, have my son this weekend, read it last night but didn't bother responding. Didn't miss it...just another woefully misinformed liberal. A bigger, more important issue than foolish pronouncements about our eco laws is that the oil will be transported one way or another across the USA. It will be in your best interests to have it done in the safest manner possible.


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Here is a response....

Bill, how is Bo doing with that "historic" eco agreement with China.

From where I sit, looks like Bo got hoodwinked by the Chinese. And is now trying to hoodwink the rest of America. It really is staggering that you can slag Canada incorrectly for a lack of eco laws during the same week your man is touting the China wishful thinking. I say "wishful thinking" because it's not even a "deal" with checks and balances.


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Thanks canvasback, I knew we could count on you.

Speaking of getting hoodwinked, maybe we could also ask bill about Obama and Kerry's negotiations with the Iranians as their uranium enrichment centrifuges keep spinning away.

Just think, Radical Islamists with Nuclear Weapons. Now there's an environmental disaster you can really sink your teeth into. Nukes on Tel Aviv. Nukes smuggled into our open Southern border and detonated in New York or Los Angeles. The possibilities are endless. And I'll bet that Keystone Pipeline would look pretty good after the nutty Iranians block the flow of oil from the Strait of Hormuz.

But Libtards like bill will never be able to admit to the connection between any of that, and the assholes they vote for.


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Keith , its my firm belief that a much larger problem looming than Iran with nukes or China with coal powered plants is Putin and Russia. Angela Merkel gets it. Too bad Bo doesn't. Way off in the future I am pretty sure we will look back and see the similarities between Bo and Chamberlain. "Peace In Our Time!"

What idiots!


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James, I agree completely that Putin and Russia will be a huge problem thanks to the Foreign Policy Junior Varsity Team of Obama, Hillary, and Kerry. I think their collective blunders will make Neville Chamberlain look pretty damn good.

But I can't help thinking that a Soviet Union reconstructed with Obama's help won't be quite as dangerous as Radical Islamists with Nukes, even though the eventual costs will be enormous... again.

The Soviets were smart enough to not use their Nukes for half a century. Radical suicidal Islamists won't be so worried about Mutual Assured Destruction, I think.

But we agree completely about the idiots involved and responsible. Even dumber are the idiots who vote for them and support them and provide cover for them. And so-called gun guys who vote for avowed 100% anti-gunners... can you get any dumber?


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