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Jim, GLS is simply providing us with a perfect example of what Liberal Democrats do when they cannot refute facts. If King was black, he'd be calling me a racist. If King was a woman, I'd be a misogynist. Since King is a white male octogenarian liar, bloviator, and resume inflator, he has to settle for calling me other names because that's all he has to offer.



I never denied that King had an abbreviated career a a field reporter for the CBC, or as a newpaper reporter with no formal Journalism degree, or as a co-coordinator for NSLFFPA, etc. It's the wanton exaggeration of his importance and positions, and the wild and totally unverifiable claims he makes that are obviously intended to lend credence to his dishonest assertions and outright lies. GLS dishonestly tries to describe my efforts to verify many of King's wild claims as some cursory Google Search. There is no real reason to mine my past because I have not made any wild claim to be something that I am not. I am a Conservative registered No Party Affiliation white male member of the NRA who is tired of anti-gun trolls and folks who purport to be pro-gun, but constantly lie for, and provide support and cover for, anti-gun anti-Second Amendment Liberal Left Democrats who are the major source of infringement upon our Constitutional RKBA. That is King Brown in a nutshell, but he is hardly the only one.

The motives of those who wish to give amnesty to his lies and exaggerations is suspect as well. If King Brown did not wish to have his past examined, he should not have made so many wild and totally unverifiable claims. The fact that he has offered, but not yet delivered, to scan and post some examples of his writing and his last year of CBC video means nothing. I've probably already seen it and I've never denied any of it. I will go so far as to reassure everyone here that it does exist even if King never posts it. Thousands of low to mid-level journalists can do as well or better. I'd like to see a picture of him wrestling with Martin Luther King, in an intimate setting with JFK, RFK, and Teddy... devoid of a scad of other journalists merely doing their jobs, rapping with Fidel Castro, seated at lunch with Jackie Kennedy, ad nauseum...I'd like proof that there are Catholic clerics in Nova Scotia who will baptize adult converts who do not believe in the Ressurection. I'm not holding my breath waiting for a liar to deliver.

First Jim. I'm not entering into the conversation regarding anything but Keith inferring GLS would likely not be as forthright in person as he is behind a keyboard. That he is hiding behind internet anonymity. And that is patently not true. GLS is not anonymous for anyone who cares to look while his accuser, in this case, chooses to remain anonymous.

Second, to Keith. To be utterly clear, when I used the term "call out" I was simply and only using that phrase in reference to the idea of who, based on evidence here on DGBB in the form of posts made over the years, might be likely to be as straightforward in a real life discussion as they are in an on line discussion. No other behavior was suggested, advised or encouraged.

You may, in fact, be willing to be as straightforward in the flesh as you are here (I suspect you would be) but in comparison to GLS, the evidence here doesn't support it. GLS is prepared to sign his name (figuratively) to all he says here. You are not. Plain and simple.

You have a good and smart rational but we aren't talking about good and smart rationals.

Keith, one thing I enjoy about your posts is the unfailing demand for reason and honesty. I feel like you missed it in the paragraph I drew attention to. And to be pointed, I'm not talking about King or GLS and their posts. I'm talking about you.

I don't want to go on endlessly on this issue. I've made my point which I believe to be accurate. You can choose to accept my comment, attempt to refute it or begin to ignore it. I have no idea if I will respond to follow up posts so I can't say "I'm done" but I'd like to be.

On a matter related to the subject the OP brought up.

On the subject of King, I AM prepared to give him a pass based on his age.

It is doubtful he recently murdered anyone or stuck a shiv in them. He isn't evicting widows and orphans. And he' probably not blowing up kittens in a microwave.

At this point in his life, especially if you are correct Keith, he has remarkably little power left to do or affect anything. He gets on line with us and tells stories of his past that may not be accurate. He may exaggerate his impact on historical events and personalities. He has political views different than mine or yours. So what! My dad says goofy things at age 87 that I don't bother to point out any more. What's the point.

Not asking you to agree with me, just stating my position.

Someone brought it up, made it an issue, and it was brought up with deliberately scrambled spacing. But, it is funny to note that good and smarts might have left building for some.

Craig, if they have, I'd have to include my building in that neighborhood. LOL

I know I'm supposed to be more careful and I probably will be once I regain my stolen identity, but in the meantime I fatalistically tell myself "Anyone who really wants to know about any of us that use computers....can and will"

Ouch, cback. I could only hope I'd have half the energy King does when I'm a senile old coot. His policy don't get no pass, careful he's gonna ram it down your throat while he makes you think you're just greasing up his wheel chair.

James, I did indeed infer that GLS would not be saying the things he is saying about me directly to my face, despite the fact that he has ostensibly posted his true name. That is my observation and opinion. And it was me who reminded Jim that Gil gave his alleged full name and address the last time he attempted to demonize me and shame me away from illuminating King's lies. This was only after me prodding him about his own anonymity several times. The fact that he is dumb enough to put that information out here, and in the same thread, complain about running out of room in his gun safes to store his Remington 870 is his problem, and that of his family who could be victimized by thieves who troll the internet for such information. He's just a Keyboard Cowboy behind an LCD a thousand miles away from me, so we'll likely never know for sure. The only way to satisfy you would be for me to post my full name and address, or for me to visit Savannah, Ga. the next time I'm in the South to introduce myself to Gil. I have no plans to do either, but I am free to imagine him wetting his panties. So Gil is free to keep slinging his own mud, and you are free to give more credence to what Gil is saying. I welcome it because it keeps King's dishonesty front and center. You refer to me as his accuser when it is Gil who is doing virtually all of the baseless accusations here. I am only saying that he is attempting to vilify me for repeated illumination of King's lies backed up by examples of same. This is all right out of the Liberal Left playbook.

edit: James, giving King a pass on his lies and exaggerations gives him a credibility that permits him to continue to spread his damaging Liberal Left Socialist agenda, and give cover to the sleazy Liberal Left Democrat politicians who infringe upon our Second (and others) Amendment Rights. This was his craft as a Liberal journalist, and he can do it almost just as well in his eighties as he did in his thirties. His audience is smaller, yes, but he does have an audience. If I thought that you, me, Jim, Dave K., craigd, Ken61, and a few other Conservatives were the only ones viewing his bullshit, I wouldn't even bother. Neither would King.

I find King to be very intellectually stimulating. Even if our political views are diametrically opposed. I have to admit that I'd probably not monitor this board as much as I do if it weren't for him. I've only run into a few people with his extreme views, and I've always enjoyed the back-and-forth refutations and rebuttals. He's obviously very intelligent and committed. What King does, as far as for myself, is force me to "push myself" intellectually, something that your run-of-the-mill ignorant Leftist usually fails to do. This board would be considerably less interesting if King was not here.

LOL, Craig. Don't worry, I'll give you a pass then too. Although by that time I will probably have forgotten what a pass is. Haha.

BTW, a pass in these circumstances doesn't mean believing, just means not rising to the bait.

I agree. Frankly I like debate for exactly that reason. I don't always have time for it so don't respond to everything I read here but the value of misfires is substantially diminished for me if we are all agreeing all the time.