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I expect if George Bush was a vindictive individual he could had sued Dan Rather and CBS for slander and won!
I think this Rather "episode" was probably the last straw for most of us with the socialist controlled "mainstream news media" and Libtards in general. I don't believe anything that comes out a a Libtards mouth anymore.
To paraphrase the statement of a noted detective during a murder trial:
"You know the 1st half dozen things that come out of their mouths when you're questioning them is going to be bullshit."
Jim

Dan Rather is the Poster Boy for dishonest journalism, but hardly the only guilty one. The Burger King knows this. He also knows that inaccurate reporting is commonplace, fact checking be damned.

I never said or even implied that Harry Bruce was either intentionally dishonest or inaccurate in his story about King. I am of the opinion that anything King told him about himself is either fiction or highly inflated. I base my opinion on King's words and actions here, and the fact that the vast majority of it is unverifiable despite extensive searches on multiple Search Engines. The fact that King's face may have been fairly commonplace on Canadian TV during his abbreviated career as a field reporter means nothing. My local weatherman's mug is on TV every day. But then, he hasn't imagined that he's practically one of the Kennedy brothers or a leading pioneer of Canadian Civil Rights. King the bloviator has repeatedly attempted to place himself on the same level as CBC luminaries such as Motley Safer or Peter Jennings. Those of you who have taken a bit of time to do comparison searches all know that King's sense of self importance is totally out of synch with reality.

I still don't believe his re-adjusted story about him having higher security clearance to the White House, Pentagon, or State Dept. than his American colleagues just because he says so. I'd like to see the proof he so frequently demands of us... and then totally ignores. The evolution of his tight special relationship with JFK to his recent tale of one with RFK and Teddy as well is amusing. I can almost believe a kinship with Ted since they both share anti-Second Amendment views. And lunches with Jackie.... that's hilarious.

King's bullshit and support of anti-gun Liberal Democrat anti-gun politicians is a disservice to all members.

I can also add that I'm a regular on a TV program as I pointed out above. I didn't think it was important enough to even mention until now even though it's firearms related.
I also had Secret Security Clearance at one time. Big Deal!
But then again; I don't have an inflated opinion of myself or need an ego boost to justify my opinions.
Jim

This begs the next question:

How do you think the electorate would have responded if they knew that Obama was a radical leftist/communist/socialist/statist that did not believe in the concept of individual freedom and equality? What if people had understood that he had every intention of converting our economy into a State-controlled one? What if he had actually "Run" on the nationalization of American health care? Remember, health care was not an election issue. What if he had "Run" on an open-border, unrestricted immigration policy that legalized aliens already in America? What if he had "Run" on the destruction of the coal industry through EPA regulation? What if he had said he intended to use the IRS against his political enemies? He ran on NONE of these things. He merely told whatever group he was in front of exactly what he thought they wanted to hear, meaning he lied to around 50% of Americans. Since he is obviously a statist religious sociopath of the Soviet school, all the lies are considered righteous and good, and are a form of statist "Taqiyya", or "Lying for the Faith"....

None of these things have anything to do with Obama's personal history. There are plenty of rumors about that, including his sexual history. They all deal with POLICY. I could care less what someone did in their youth, its how they represent the electorate when once in office that is important.

Military and Federal employee drug testing began after a 1981 plane crash upon the Nimitz. Reagan signed the Executive Order. We constantly did random testing while I was in the service, and we would occasionally catch someone. If they were lower enlisted, they'd get counseling and a second chance. If they were officers or NCOs, they'd get the boot. Just like Hunter Biden, (VP Biden's son) who just got booted from the Navy for cocaine use. He had received waivers for both his age as well as for prior drug use. He tested positive for Coke after only around a month after receiving his commission, which was awarded to him as a "Direct Commission" such as doctors and lawyers receive. We'll have to see how THAT plays out for ol'Hunter's political aspirations...

Hard to believe you ever came in second at anything King. Are you sure that wasn't nepotism rather than jingoism that allegedly gave the son of the contest's sponsor the first place award? Are you saying it still hurts after all these years? Imagine then, fighting a campaign and losing simply because some Democrats conspired to commit elections fraud... something you refuse to even acknowledge even when we provide the proof you demand, but almost never provide yourself.

And seeing conservatism as an euphemism for selfishness... strange that you can't see the injustice of confiscating the wealth of hard working people and redistributing it to those who are just too lazy or unmotivated to take advantage of the many taxpayer funded opportunities to become educated and gainfully employed to make it on their own, without the handouts that make Socialists like you feel good about themselves.

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I wonder how the Democrats came up with the October surprise of Dubya's skipping out on some Reserves military training if his records were truly sealed and cannot be released without his consent? A great deal of his supposedly secret military training record is available on King's favorite source, Wikipedia.

Yet another of King Brown's many lies rears its' ugly head.

GLS, make King stop already. He's making you look like an ass for defending him.

At a guess, from our jousting, I'd say we are more in agreement than most members that spin and lying knows no limits in politics. It's pervasive as rain with Democrats and Republicans as it is with all our parties in Canada. But, no, human nature what it is, I don't think the electorate would respond differently to the examples we've cited, depending on national moods at the time.

I used Bush as another example of your post that it's easy to speculate on what would be found if the Obama files were opened to the public: What would be the response to a presidential nominee if files revealed he appeared to seek refugee in the Guard and washed out for moral weakness with his country at war?

I'd also offer that responses differ with generations. Modernity makes surprises. With apologies for using the time-worn politician's tactic of not replying to hypothetical questions, but not following it, it's my guess the Vietnam generation would have judged more harshly than the current one with issues prominent among chattering classes but of less concern in the polls.

Ken, when I hunt and fish, the catch is a dividend, the experience comes first, as I imagine it does with you. Preferring waxed cotton, split cane and leather doesn't confer that you have or need them. If you have them you don't need them for the experience. Same with spinning and lying in politics. I know there are bugs under a rock in the back forties, have no interest in looking for or at them.

I coined in Misfires "the punk's game." It's not original. I got it from Dad. I was able to confirm it from working on six-month contract as a consultant in communications to the federal government after years of observing it in party back rooms. What a lousy business.

I again make this offer as I don't like to see everyone in politics painted with the same brush.
My Congressman is David Schweikert (R 6th District Arizona).
I challenge ANYONE on this forum to post any instance of his lying since he has taken office. IMO: He has been a breath of fresh air.
As an aside: He's up for re-election next week and I'll be surprised if he gets anything less than 60% of the vote.
Jim

I think most politicians start off like yours. Most are good guys. I take you at your word that yours has been authentic in representing his constituents. They are expected over time to toe the line. Not for nothing do candidates and parties spend unconscionable amounts of money to frame the message, never in the minds of the Founding Fathers. I hope your man does win; we need more of them.

I called his predecessor Harry Mitchell (D) a liar on numerous occasions. He was unfortunately elected in an upset due to Obama mania in 2008. He only served one term and then apparently slid back into the muck from which he emerged. I told him one of my goals in life was to make sure he wasn't re-elected and apparently a lot of my fellow constituents felt the same way.
He was lying Libtard scum in the same way as Harry Reid.
Jim

Kumbaya is a predictable tactic, are you sure we should all just be holding hands walking off into the sunset.

I'm so curious why we would need 'more of them' when they would be polar opposites of you upper third bestest pres ever. How do know they tend to start off half way decent. You can ignore this prez' own biography explaining he was damaged goods at least from back in high school. When was point that he was a 'good guy', maybe he's not now? Did his transformation into a bad guy elevate him to the top third.

Awe, don't worry about it, more conjecture.