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That is a nice looking gun! Congratulations.

Wow, that is a gorgeous A grade!

I finally had a chance to shoot my 30" f/f choked 16 O grade today, and I'm glad I did! I was invited to shoot trap, which I hardly ever do. I put a slip on comb raiser on it, and that little gun knocked my socks off. I think I shot a 21 or 22 with it, which is good for me since I usually shoot skeet. Dead on and velvety smooth is the best way I can describe it. I had planned on selling it, but now I'm having visions of late season roosters and chukars, dropping like flies at 40+ yds... I'm surprised these SAC guns don't get more play.

Ran across this 1895 review of SAC �The Hollenbeck�
http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/SportingLife/1895/VOL_25_NO_05/SL2505015.pdf

Interesting it was only being distributed through Herman Boker & Co., New York

Great article Drew. I thought Lefevers were easy to work on, but the SAC gun only has a few screws and is remarkably easy to take apart. Impressive design.

A 16ga recently popped up on Armslist.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/587161/ham...by-side-shotgun

Tough to tell what it is from the pictures. It's listed with "Improved Damascus" barrels, and it looks like it might have the Grade 1 engraving. So, possibly it's a Grade 2? Seems a little pricey for the gun's condition...

Ken,

Thanks for the heads up.

I have just added my first SAC to my accumulation of American Doubles. It won't arrive for a week or so but the info from the seller(yes an oline purchase) lets me believe it is a Grade 3. I am hoping Mr. Archer or one of you other knowledgable gents can educate me on what I have. I am somewhat up on Hollenbeck and his history in the trade. Looking to learn at what ser# the first "The Syracuse" labeled guns appeared and the last "Hollenbeck". Was the change abrupt at a certain serial number or did the numbers overlap?

Sale bill read as follows:

Syracuse Arms Co. SxS hammerless shotgun, 12 gauge, 32� damascus barrels that have an old re-blued finish, checkered wood stocks with added hard rubber butt pad, #5148 in overall good condition as re-finished showing very good bores, good actions and markings, good wood stocks.

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Thank you,

John

Congratulations, I saw that one on Proxibid, you got a great deal. Be sure and tell us what Damascus pattern type the barrels have.
Regards
Ken

Ken,

Thanks, I have been looking a long time for a decent SAC double. Most look pretty tired and priced at a premium. I don't consider any of my purchases "investment grade". Most are Field grade guns with 50-60% condition. Almost all are tight, sound wood and field ready. Wish I had more time to get in the field.

John

That one certainly appears to be a "cut above" Field grade. Yeah, most of the Syracuse guns that have been popping up recently are Grade 00 and 0, are in lower condition, and are priced at around $300 or so...I'm going to make an effort to get out more this year, my Setter is getting frustrated..