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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Pity you don't read the papers, Ken. I wrote: "US looks pretty good today." In fact, the S&P 500 jumped more than 15 points or 0.8 per cent yesterday, and is now less than one per cent below its record high. As for the year, here's Wikipedia:

"US real GDP contracted by 2.1% in the first quarter of 2014, the first decline since 2011. However in the second quarter of 2014, the US GDP grew by 4.2%, reversing the contraction seen in the first quarter and surpassing previous estimates."

Looks like an improvement to me, considering powerful forces beyond US control: the euro zone in a perilous state, China's commodities reaching their limits, its central bank trying to shore up slowing economic growth.

US relatively good shape compared to the rest of the world, Ken.


This whole post is sad if you can get past the point that it's truly Libtard sick. The "Stock Market" is being manipulated by a small cabal of "investors"(think George Soros here) and the rise over the last two years has no basis on reality. The "easing" bought and paid for by the FED which has propped up this market is the sole reason for it's uncanny rise that can't be explained in any normal sense. When the market crashes as it surely will it will make 1929 look like a walk in the park.
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Thanks for proving my point King,once again NO facts just made up rhetoric !

BTW Bush had an international coalition and approval of congress and the will to change tactics and use the surge that worked on Iraq. Obama has a coalition of a few unwilling,no approval of congress and according to the Generals no plan to actually win without deploying "rough men with rifles"


Bush’s international coalition to depose Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein involved over three dozen nations and tens of thousands of ground troops, including 46,000 from the United Kingdom, 2,000 from Australia, and thousands from Poland, Ukraine, South Korea, the Netherlands, and Georgia. Countries from Europe, East Asia, and Latin America all participated.


Obama’s anti–Islamic State coalition has proven smaller, and allied contributions more limited. His September 10 speech was vague, referencing only a desire to work with Middle Eastern partners in the region. Since then, Australia has promised combat advisers and France has conducted air strikes. Regional powers Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, and Jordan joined the United States to strike targets in Syria on Monday.

But the United Kingdom and Turkey remain conspicuously absent from the president’s coalition, as do many of the United States’ traditional partners in Europe and East Asia. "



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Originally Posted By: Ken61
Comrade King,

Not only are you a statist religious sociopath, but you must be a drug addict as well. You should check your prescriptions, and ask your government doc to ease up on the hallucinogenics. The American economy has not improved. Since its been covered so many times I won't go into it, but you really are a duped buffoon.


King has been shown-with facts like BLS links to the statistics that the economy is in very bad shape-labor force participation rates lowest since 1970's,doubling of food stamps (SNAP) and disability payments,wage growth stagnate or dropping for most of the middle class and on and on. He of course,continues to IGNORE them and post his FACT-LESS rhetoric and say its fact.
"Burger King" home of the whopper,if the name fits.............

King is going to need those hallucinogenics come Nov Ken,the rats are jumping off the sinking ship of lame duck obama and the times is running out for "after the election" games on Fast and Furious,IRS,Benghazi "stand down" orders and many of the other " the most corrupt administrations" scandals !



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Again, Dave, I was responding to Ken's "no improvement" with "US looking pretty good today," followed by the facts of Wednesday's S&P 500 and second-quarter above all expectations. A snapshot but an improvement.

Iraq was a mistake acknowledged by your generals. Bush's superpower warning "If you're not with us you're against us," sucked in a "coalition of the willing" except for Canada which forecast accurately another debacle like Vietnam.

Canada stayed out of Vietnam because the US "domino theory" made no sense. We don't always come when US crooks its fingers as others do. Yes, the US people wanted in for Iraq, then out for which Obama complied, and now in again with public support after beheading of a couple reporters.

Canada, with a relatively high number of jihadists with IS---apparently more per capita than the US---has its special forces in Iraq and is considering Obama's request for F-18s in role similar to the Libya air war which it commanded (even though that democracy ploy turned out as badly as Iraq).

All countries make mistakes, Dave. Iraq should temper your criticism of Obama who on the evidence so far will never visit on the American people an unwarranted tragedy like 4,500 dead, 11,000 wounded and a trillion dollars.

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Markets always crash, Jim. It's built into the system. Moneymen were working like the devil for less regulation before the 2008 recession and they're back at it again. Money permits it. Money talks. There's nothing uncanny or unexplainable about it.

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"Markets always crash" when sociopathic religious statist are in charge. If you look at the crashes including and since the Great Depression, (perhaps with the exclusion of the "Dot.com" crash, which didn't have much effect on the economy) you'll find governmental fingers on all of them. Government-created "Bubbles", easily explained by Austrian (von Hyack, Menger, Milton Friedman, Arthur Laffer, etc.) Economics. It's the sociopathic statist religious dogma of Keynes that is the problem. Always promoted by the pseudo-elitist sociopaths like you.


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....Iraq was a mistake....

....Iraq should temper your criticism of Obama who on the evidence so far will never visit on the American people an unwarranted tragedy like 4,500 dead, 11,000 wounded and a trillion dollars.


Interesting, what makes us think iraq today, is not a mistake.

How about a little breakdown. Were there any military casualties after bo took power. How many were lost when the 'war' turned pc, say when miranda rights were granted on the battlefield or teams were sent out after soldiers turned jihadi sympathizers or from Gitmo guests on the work release program.

Does the toll count out in benghazi. How many US citizens on US soil have been raped, maimed and murder as 'acceptable collateral' for a southern border policy. How about law enforcement casualties down along the border, and gun running schemes that can be linked to deaths in the hundreds. We know around these parts, there's no outrage from lefties.

A trillion eh? Obscene, but so's the ignoring by the left, of the various 'attached bills'. Where did the budget, in the tens of billions, for nonfunctioning solar panel projects on mil bases come from. How did citizens or the environment benefit from the cash for clunkers program, other than suck military budget and contaminate land fills.

Please explain again how this latest quagmire is justifiable. If(?) you can come up with good reasons to reopen the expensive and deadly quagmire, are you comfortable with the leadership. You know they are already trying to soft peddle and conceal the cost of these limited pin pricks.

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King unlike the current president,bush was able to go attack the terrorists and "those that harbor them" to prevent any other terrorist attack here in America.Of course your still thinking call them "workplace violence" makes it not a terrorist attack,we know better !

BTW we will bring up your "mistake" line come 2016 and Hillary


If you remember that day, Clinton,Biden,Kerry and others on the lame duck side soon who voted for the Iraq war;

YEAs — 77
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA) Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)


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Originally Posted By: italiansxs
It was reported just today that 72% of Americans still think we're in a recession(and guess what we are!). The other 28% are probably brain dead Obamanites!
Jim


could this be why ?




Net job growth has declined under Obama. And by the end of the second year of their terms as President, economic growth under Reagan averaged 7.1% , under Obama an anemic 2.8%.

So, how did Reagan manage it? Across-the-board tax cuts, non-defense spending cuts, a restrained monetary supply, and deregulation.

What’s Obama done? Tax increases, spending increases, a massive money-supply increase through “quantitative easing,” and an explosive increase in regulations.

Game, set, and match to Ronald Reagan- and a sound, conservative economic policy.


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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/1-4-americans-25-54-not-working_806178.html


1 in 4 Americans 25-54 Not Working




"There are 124.5 million Americans in their prime working years (ages 25–54). Nearly one-quarter of this group—28.9 million people, or 23.2 percent of the total—is not currently employed. They either became so discouraged that they left the labor force entirely, or they are in the labor force but unemployed. This group of non-employed individuals is more than 3.5 million larger than before the recession began in 2007,


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