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Bingo! Give this man a prize!!!

That's it, Bill. Big money makes citizens vote against their best interests. Any appreciable change in American lives after November will not come from new faces in Washington. Or from electorates that believe free markets exist and don't know 60-plus cents of every dollar of farmers' income comes from government. We'd be starving in a week without them.

Bill, I think it is of value to argue the point of making the government smaller. Without that impetus, it will NEVER act smarter. Not in human nature.

And to that point, it is clear there is only ONE way to make government actually smaller, to force it to be smarter. Withhold the money!

Oppose every tax increase on every tax bracket. Oppose every fee and fee hike. Oppose government deficits and debt. Every time.

Not that things will change radically in an instant. But to turn the great ship of state around will take a long time. To change public views about what appropriate government intervention is will take a long time. To change what Democrat and Republican politicians see as their mandate will take a long time. And, IMHO, the only way to do it is to reduce the flow of money.

The fundamental problem lies in the area of spending other peoples money. We don't do it well. Ever. So we need to re-imagine the political and bureaucratic systems with an emphasis of managing this persistent and intractable problem.

Until we do that, all government will get bigger, regardless of which party is in power.

That's why Ken is on the right track in my opinion. It's not a battle between left and right, so much as a battle between large intrusive government or smaller, limited government. Our freedoms have been dispensed with effectively by both the left and the right.

It seems to all sound the same, a very superficial 'why can't we all get along, see I'm reasonable'. Problem is, to me, you support the candidate, then the policy, then reaffirm the policy for a second term. The rhetoric around these parts does not show any disappointment for 'smartness' or 'campaign finance reform', only reaffirmation time and time again. How exactly is 'change' supposed to happen when excuses will run to any length to for the policy of far left liberalism.

Take for example you next post about teachers letting kids learn and grow without undue ideological influence. How then can excuses be made for the mandates of 'common core' forcing minimum requirements of left wing pc in the classroom, not 'smarter' kids. Is that a money issue, or purely an ideological force feed. My understanding, current grade school level American history books have two pages on Washington and the Founding Fathers. Bash America for slavery runs dozens and dozens of pages. Bash America for atrocities against native Americans, similar. You know, com'in corps is telling your (all kids across the country) grandkids in Montana that all hunting and firearms are a bad thing.

You won't trim back entitlements and pork, I believe that because you called me foolish and hateful. How exactly would you window dress it to make it appear 'smarter'. And no, to me 'smarter' is NOT green regs, bridges to nowhere, endangered species games, co2 demonizing or multiple fundraising stops each week. All of those cost peanuts to free. But hey, we knocked the intentionally porous border off the headlines, hope your grandkids are not penalized in the classroom for the 'struggles' of felon illegal aliens demanding rights to their educational resources.

The term "Moral Relativism" is another subjective term used by religious statists to rationalize their sociopathic inflictions upon others. It is used to override the Constitution and the whole concept of individual freedom and equality. It is used to rationalize the sociopathic concept of "equality of outcome". It rationalizes confiscation of economic freedom and the consequential religious vote-buying. Thank you for proving my point about public education, as obviously you taught this sociopathic, unconstitutional, statist religious dogma. Once again, you're the problem, not the solution.

Comrade King,

Please cite your sources.

I hope the electorates can see through some of the ideological gymnastics to create 'facts'. Could be there's things like 'factored in' values of lower tax rates to make the point of corporate welfare, and it would be completely ignored that no big city slumlord is even remotely interested in setting up a new ghetto out in the hay fields of the great plains.

Mentioned before, this admin wouldn't let the masses starve, they'd bring in food from mejico and central america. Imagine that, a photo op because a few crates of produce show up in a truck convoy, then off to the links. You know they can't give away 'free' houses and land in detroit, never mind that it resembles gaza or feluja. Why isn't that 'factored in' to the piles of feel good things as a benefit of the great society.

King makes more stuff up then anyone on here and calls them facts, you won't see a credible source,just a change of subject/blame Bush or capitalism post.

Here's some documentation regarding government growth: In Reagan's first term government grew by 8.7%. In GW's two terms it grew by 7.3% and 8.1%. In Obama's first term 1.4%. Google "government growth by President". To paraphrase Russel Sadler, " another myth mugged by a brutal gang of facts."

Sources there for the whole world to see. Google US subsidies. For agriculture see US report on 60 cents of the dollar.

See also corporate welfare.

Dave, no one is interested in Bush's responsibility for Iraq wreck. That's old fact like Columbus 1492. To mention is bullying.

James, the West without exception went to Keynes.