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All that is required is a long proper turnscrew. Just file one down that fits those screws and the turnscrew will always be for those or similar screws.
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A really nice Merkel! I also would ask Merkel as Raimey proposed.
Raimey, have you ever discovered something important beneath the side panels? I have my doubts, because important things on (german) guns always are visible without using any tools….. I think, there will be nothing except perhaps the Nitro Eagle...
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Wolfgang:
I have heard the visible phrase prior but I think that to be in context that the marks were to be visible on the tube and not hidden behind a rib, etc. I do not think the wooden side panels were installed when the sporting weapon experienced proof. I'm fairly confident that the bulk of the marks will be along the centre rib on the left side. Note the Crown over S on the left side of the top rib. This one really piques my interest in that there is a possibility that it may have experienced proof in later 1923 or early 1924 and I contend that if a datecode exists it will be found under the panel along with some mechanics initials. Many times the tube knitter's initials are at the forend hanger which would be on the lower tube in this case.
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Raimey, maybe you are right.One has to look at! But I have my doubts...
Cheers Wolfgang
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Oh, Wolfgang how I fancy a doubting Thomas. Your are correct that we are just 3 screws from the truth. I am also pretty confident that the proof facility didn't differentiate between O/Us with and without wooden side panels so I feel safe that there will be a regiment of marks nestled on each side of the left centre rib. Now I have seen some Austrian O/U offerings that wear the marks on the right side of the top tube & underside of the lower tubes.  Geyger O/U and note the Sl touchmark on the tubes. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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When I get back from hunting, I'll grind a screwdriver bit to fit.
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Wolfgang,
Sometimes a gun was made with a single set of barrels and later had another set made( BDB,BBF,etc)and instead of a second forearm,the forearm was converted to 3 piece.In this case, the side panel could cover some original markings. "Bring Backs" are often missing second barrel sets.
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Well,I'm really curious to see some examples of hidden stamps on a Merkel!
I have one of 1969 and will have a look next time,but still am a doubting Wolfgang...;-)
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Doubting Wolfgang, if you are correct, then Merkel would have had some prior agreement with the Suhl proof facility. For now, I'm not aware of any such agreement and the appropriate marks have to be there somewhere.
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Fellows, the hunt did not go so well, only a few birds this year. The Merkel does shoot well though, had very good success with it, not choked much, may have been opened up at some point.
The slots on the screws holding the side panels are very thin, my Brownell's set does not have a bit that small and I am afraid to grind one down any further. I have buggered enough other guns lately.
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