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http://dailysignal.com/2014/08/02/support-obamacare-decreases/

Last month’s Kaiser Health Tracking Poll found that more than half of Americans view the law unfavorably, an eight point increase from June. Only 37 percent view the law favorably while 53 percent disapprove.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/08/02/aetna-ceo-admits-obamacare-customer-numbers-worse-expected/

Aetna CEO Admits Obamacare Customer Numbers Worse Than
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Edmund Haislmaier, a senior research fellow at The Heritage Foundation, said in a recent report the industry saw only a small net increase in private coverage in the first quarter
Haislmaier also said most of the increases were coverage substitution—people who lost their work-based insurance and had to buy on the open market.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/08/02/at-most-obamacare-will-help-this-many-people-get-insured/

this first tranche of data is highly revealing. Drew and I present the numbers and analyze them in more detail in our new report, but here are three key takeaways from the data for the six-month period of October 1, 2013, through March 31, 2014:

Net enrollment in the individual-coverage market grew by 2,236,942 individuals, while net enrollment in employer group coverage declined by 1,716,540 individuals.

The decline in employer-sponsored coverage offset 77 percent of the gain in individual-market coverage, for a net increase in private-market coverage of only 520,000 individuals during the period.


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Comrade King,

You are very ignorant about the Irish health care system. It is not a universal single payer system. I'm not sure if you're intentionally lying, or it's just your sociopathic belief in religious statism.

America already has Medicaid and Medicare that covers a huge percentage of our population. Ireland's single payer system covers about 32% of theirs, the rest in on private insurance. Obamacare is designed to destroy the private insurance sector, not improve health care.

Here's the Wikipedia link, it's an easy read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland


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This has all been explained to King several times for a couple years now,he continues with the same health care lies ( as well as second amendment-Presidential powers ( and the lack of recognizing of the power of the Senate) parroted by many socialists.
When faced with overwhelming facts retreat and come back later with the same lies over and over again !


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Canada has health care paid from taxes and private insurance as do most countries which declare universal care.

I have both. Private pays for extras like glasses, physiotherapy, dentistry, single or double hospital room etc depending on the policy.

Canada covers all citizens under single-payer from birth to the grave, showing a card entering hospitals, not even that at doctors' offices.

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The problem here Dave, is that King and many other liberals operate on a faith based system when it comes to their views on many of the subjects that typically fall into the area of a left and right view point. Ken is onto something when he talks about statism in religious terms.

It is as useless expecting facts to change his mind as it would be for an avowed atheist throwing "facts" at a fundamentalist Jew/Christian/Muslim to expect that facts would sway their belief.

As Ken points out, any faith requires some suspension of disbelief....an ability to disregard what the modern world generally considers to be fact. King and others appear to do so on a regular basis on social issues, just as those who partake every Sunday in the body and blood of Christ do.

King, and many others, would likely have to alter his belief system before your facts could really have much impact.


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You paint character with a broad brush, Dave. Your refusal to accept anything other than your perceptions doesn't make it a lie. Specifically, what lies have I told about the 2nd, presidential powers, not recognizing senate responsibilities. Produce your "overwhelming facts."

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King,
I have backed up many of my posts over and over again with facts over the years and you have offered nothing but towing the liberal line full lies backed up by ??????? NOTHING !

King you going to be in for a rough time next couple months,you will see the loss of the Senate,a Lame duck "most corrupt" "most inept" buy all accounts "worst" President lose battles and many in his administration go to trial for IRS scandal as well others (Benghazi,Fast and Furious,Immigration...).

Stop regurgitating the same BS,in short we ain't buying it and its getting old.


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King, and many others, would likely have to alter his belief system before your facts could really have much impact.

I suspect your right CB,for some reason I have this silly notion that when faced with overwhelming proof (failed economy,obamacare,massive corruption,middle east in flames,all of the other world leaders and even most of their own party running for reelection distancing themselves from obama ) of the massive failure of "hope and change" they would at least stop trying to sell the same old BS lines over and over again !


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....Specifically, what lies have I told about the 2nd, presidential powers, not recognizing senate responsibilities. Produce your "overwhelming facts."


About the 2nd, I've noticed a 'wild west' theme. There's a tendency to blame the object, not the user, by equivocating how great the Canadian gun control laws work for Canadians.

Regarding presidential powers, I noticed a tendency to excuse the media from questioning policy due to left wing pc correctness exaggerated by race.

Senate responsibilities, maybe now comes a more typical statement. I do not believe you have ever questioned the senate, or THE specific legislative bottleneck under reid. But, 'do nothing' is regularly aimed at the R's on the house side of congress.

Hmmm, none of these things I've noticed are actually 'lies'. They seem to be opinion. If they aren't facts to support a point, they may be part ideological campaign. Maybe?, seems to have a common theme.

Fib? I've never voted lib, but recently you're a self described lib.

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Opinions aren't facts, Dave.

Whatever Americans decide this year or later doesn't have a gnat's eyelash of influence on whether it's rough or smooth sailing for me.

I hope for something better for your country than continuation of dysfunctional governance that you want for the next two years.

Thwarting majority vote isn't citizenship to me. I'm not happy with our federal leadership but don't wish harm to policies approved by a majority.

I can wait for the next test of the government's performance.

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