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I can see what those Priests and Pastors were concerned about Jim. Now we have a Muslim president that is "flexible" with Vladimir Putin and takes orders from the Grand Ayatollah, except when he's golfing!

Religious influence is even stronger today. Think of all the statist temples where congregations are admonished to vote for statist religious sociopaths: The temple of the union hall. The temple of the teacher's lounge. The Black church. The temple of the Welfare office. The temple of the HUD office. The temple of the Food Stamp office. The temple of the Green Energy company. The temple of the Trial Lawyer's office. The temple of the non-profit business. The temple of the Social Security office. The temple of the Medicaid office. The temple of the Medicare office. The temple of Affirmative Action. The temple of Feminism. The temple of Obamacare. Need I go on? All are statist religious sub-cults that directly benefit from the involuntary exchange of goods and services that occurs when the State takes away a fellow citizen's economic freedom and gives it to them in reward for their votes. Or, grants their sub-cult an economic advantage at the expense of their fellow citizens. Statist Neoslavery.

youse guys are incredible...you have so much energy...you make me feel old and tired...which i am...

Nuff' said.....

Not much accomplished with all that spent energy & effort. Have they converted anyone to their way of thinking? I suspect not.

Conversion require's a degree of Intellectual Objectivity. Since the whole purpose of a faith-based religious belief is to suspend intellectual objectivity in order to believe in it's mythology and dogma, religious fanatics are the hardest to convert. Denial of objective reality, especially when you receive an economic benefit at the expense of your fellow free and equal citizens is an easy choice for Religious Statists. They are, in effect, paid for their sociopathic beliefs. All it requires is the worship of religious statism, in the temple of the voting booth and before the altar of the ballot box.

Glad you said 'not much'. Sounds like you do admit that talk of kumbaya, tolerance, fairness and all inclusiveness is, ta-da, cow pies.

Anyone who watched Greta Van Susteren's special on the atrocities being committed by Muslims against Christians got a hideous dose of a sociopathic culture in action last night:
Jim

"faith-based religious belief is to suspend intellectual objectivity in order to believe in it's mythology and dogma, religious fanatics are the hardest to convert"

Jim

Translation: You can't fix "stupid". I just Googled "FUBAR" and found Jagermeister's picture.