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I'll reply in detail to Craig later, sorry to have not done so more quickly Craig. Just briefly though I am not say BO is doing just fine. Craig I understood your question to be how were regulations effecting me directly, in regards to chemicals etc. I mentioned the ones that come to mind in my shop. I have had no problems regarding Hazmat, EPA, new regulations etc. I'm sure others may have had problems with all the new BO greeny regulations but I have not. I feel for those effected though.

You asked several good questions Craig which I will try to address tonight. Is all debt the same? No, I do not think so, but the discussion does need to start somewhere. Once we start getting into whether or not the money was well spent it becomes quite philosophical. I'm not sure any of us have the time to fully explore who spent what and if it was a good idea or not.

Gingrich and his role? A big one in my mind. The fact we had a split government and both Newt and Slick Willy could come together to get things done was vital during that time period. There was compromise and the country was moving along nicely.

Doug, you aren't answering my question. Which is how do you get all potential GOP party voters to actually vote, to pull together to get the socialist dicks of the current Democratic party out? I get the welfare bums and the far lefties....don't care about them. I'm talking about the soft middle plus the hard right, who stay home and don't vote for a variety of reasons.

I guess where I'm getting to is would you rather be right or a little less right but in control of the levers of government?

"By choosing the right conservative candidate"......like ISS said, Romney's Mormonism killed his vote and he still came very close. The Republicans have nobody to blame but them selves....

Best,

Don't forget Steve, it was Slick Willy who set us all on the path of the financial meltdown, with his encouragement of risky mortgages for the underclass. And to a large degree, economically he could coast and still look good because the hard work had been done by RR & GHB.

Okay then, who should have the GOP picked? Are you telling me that in an era that elected a black man, that Mormonism killed Romney? Uptight Mass managed to elect him.

A fair point James. To my mind the Democratic push to get anyone into a home even if they could not afford it combined with the Republican philosophy of free markets needing little regulation and the bundling of mortgages as securities all led to the housing melt down. Just my viewpoint though.

I believe in individual freedom, not the freedom for large financial institution to run roughshod over all but the extremely wealthy. So I don't have much difficulty with appropriate financial regulation that protects the individual from the rapacious and amoral appetites of Wall Street.

But there is no Republican philosophy that supports that behavior in those institutions. Only the corrupt axis of "Inside the Beltway" Washington and Wall Street. It was the Dems under Clinton who enacted regulations that eased mortgage requirements and allowed for the bundling of mortgages into securities. And it is the current Democratic regime that has allowed the criminals of Wall street to escape unpunished.

That said, I don't argue with the idea that both parties do a poor job in this area.

I don't think so either, but the strategy does work, doesn't it.

In my opinion, the dems just flat out will not offer a 'moderate' alternative to consider in a general election. So, my vote supports the wishy washy R.

During primaries, I think the RNC should dig and practice expose weaknesses of front runners, but the big bucks should be saved for after the primaries.

First order of business, hire top notch acting/media coaches to make that nominee the best actress ever. Also, hire crack dem strategists, who'll work for the almighty dollar, to create practice attack scenarios. Work off the promter if needed, flood youtube with the R logo in the corner of unrelated pop culture videos. Put the R logo in the corner of free inner city basketball league jerseys, put a little R logo up on bill boards with no other easily forgotten campaign slogan. Who knows, maybe repetition will sink in by osmosis.

It was my understanding that the rules regarding bundling came after Clinton, I may well be wrong on that point. I need to look that up. Either way, we are pretty much in agreement.

James:
I going to make a slight historical correction here. While Clinton and the Democrats( think of that little weasel Barney Frank here among others) get the primary blame for the housing meltdown. The whole economic fiasco really started with L. Johnson.
As the result of his Great Society over 1 Trillion dollars was expened in "helping" raise the poor and there is virtually nothing to show for it.
Jim