doublegunshop.com - home Forums Pledge Drive to Permanently Ban Ed Good

Fair point indeed, my friend- I believe just as firmly in the First Amendment as I do the Second, but you are right- freedom of speech doesn't mean you can yell "Fire" in a crowded theater and cause a panic/stampede. The thing Ed doesn't grasp, is nobody here in their right mind believes him, or will buy a gun from him, so he is like the phraseology- "Full of sound and fury, and signifying nothing"__

OK Fox. But when you said nobody here in their right mind believes ed, I was going to say that King Brown believes him.

But then I remembered that King is not in his right mind either. There's another anti-Second Amendment guy who has been advancing anti-Second Amendment notions here for far too long.

It's our rights that are at stake. We can beat them down, or we can let them flourish and grow. There is no middle ground that I can see.

"It's our rights that are at stake. We can beat them down, or we can let them flourish and grow. There is no middle ground that I can see."

please splain how exchange of ideas puts your rights at stake? is it that you cannot defend your views, so all you can do is attack others whose ideas you may not want to hear? if you cannot handle challenges here, I shutter to think what you would do if you came up against a real gun control advocate, such as Michael Bloomberg, the recent mayor of nyc.

your hostilitry and irrational performance only encourages growth of those who really do oppose our right to keep and bear arms. do you not think that real gun control advocates are reading this material?

if there is no middle ground, then there is no hope for us all. weather you like it or not, there are many who oppose us. if we fail to respect their views. we will suffer the consequences...

you are so busy defending your rights, that you fail to realize that others also have rights that may be different from yours. finding common ground with others is the only sane alternative to most any controversy.

Your 'exchange of ideas' is a one way street to erosion of a particular right. I would splain it by saying, look in the mirror. Are you regularly shot at with hicapsemiauto's, or did someone have to tell you that you should demonize them. Does the tale of the demon milgun stop with you, or are you advocating for gun control by helping the new normal advance through repetition and spreading the word.

When you mention 'hope', what's that. 'hope-n-change', hope chest, more regs and antigun law.

Ahhh, rights. There in fact seems to be a constitutional 2nd right. Please explain what 'right' you're referring to that's 'different'. If the 2nd. is respected and preserved, what 'right' did the anti have to give up. Hope you're 'feeling' better.

I skimmed over your post ed, and all I saw was more anti-Second Amendment sentiment, and a sure path to gradual but complete loss of our gun rights.

Here's an exchange of ideas... We have this Constitutional Right. Don't touch it! Don't burden law abiding citizens with more useless laws that don't fix the problems you Libtards created. We have given up machine guns and sawed off shotguns. We have given up mail order sales of guns. We have endured waiting periods, backround checks, and outright bans on semi-autos that look evil to you. We have paid fees, filled out forms, and applied for licenses. Now it's your turn. Lock up the felons and throw away the key. Kill the felons on Death Row. Do stop and frisk searches on every gang member in the U.S. Infringe on their rights, not ours. No more paroles. No more plea bargains. No more Fast and Furious charades to create false situations. No more gun free zones that only protect mentally ill shooters. We have already given up too much considering that we are not the problem. Now it's your turn to give.

There is no middle ground unless we wish to lose more and more. What has been lost was lost because of attitudes like yours. It has been lost to people like Leftist Liberals King Brown. Repeating the same mistakes and making concessions and constantly losing ground is what you want us to do.

What is half of a half of a half of a half....?

do you mind guys...i grow weary of this...

How about our 'Nam era mantra "Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out later"??

Works for me Fox!

Amen to that, Brother. Our great Country is being "Chiefed by the Double-Tongues"- has been ever since JFK was killed in 1963- slow, gradual but still a slippery slope. Libturds like the Canuckski King cannot see the forest clearly, because the trees keep getting in their line of sight.

C'mon, Fox. What's more double-tongue than self-contradictory members who huff and puff about liberty and try to bribe Dave to unceremoniously ban forever a member---your dissent duly noted?

C'mon up to Canada, where conservatives and liberals work and play together without the kind of poisonous internecine warfare preventing the US from being all it can be---your accurate comments in this respect also noted.

Even with its share of true believers, Canada overall doesn't allow politics to diminish personal relationships. They know what goes around comes around, and they can wait for elections to decide. It's not a blood sport. The results have been satisfactory. US governance paralysis results from vicious polarization.

Big Money influences Americans to vote against their best interests, distilled within fighting for GOP hegemony, finding a winning candidate. We read of the country going to hell, about redistribution, and this from a co-authored book by The Economist managing editor and editor in chief:

"If you put spending and taxes together, including all the deductions, the government lavishes more dollars overall on the top fifth of the income distribution than the bottom fifth."

The US must restrain public spending because it has no other option, as Obama is trying to do. He has told the world that the US will no longer be the world's policemen; other nations must undertake responsibilities for their defence, the US no longer has the treasure to shape the international order.

Michael Ignatieff, a Canadian intellectual teaching at Harvard, former leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, writing in the current New York Review, says "The liberal state is in crisis, basically, because its regulatory, legal and political institutions have either been captured, or have been laid siege to, by the economic interests they were created to control."

The "slow, gradual but slippery slope" of the last 50 years is a given in the struggle between democracies and authoritarians. Ronald Reagan and Maggie Thatcher promised to change rampant "socialism" and failed to dismantle the welfare state. The Koch Brothers have taken on the US now all by themselves. I give them marks for putting their money with their mouths, their sense of being true patriots. But can money buy everything?

So c'mon up, Fox. You'd fit in nicely with what passes for nobility in Canada: a people who are judged by not what they own or party they support but what they contribute to the health and happiness of the communities around them.