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this misfires place is weird.

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I mean, some register here with no information about themselves beyond a user name...then they spew hate and venom here most every day...they artfully discourage civil discourse about many current issues...so, what are we to think? who are they anyway? isis?

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The farmer decided he wanted bacon and three eggs for breakfast. After long negotiations the chicken agreed to compromise and let him have two of her eggs. But the hard headed, extreme, radical, uncompromising, nutty, narrow minded hog refused to even budge an inch in his conversations with the farmer.

The Second Amendment was intended to protect the private ownership of military weapons by honest citizens. Those weapons were to be used for both personal defense and participation in a militia.

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Ed,

I usually don't respond to your posts. I consider you somewhat innocuous, despite your proclivity for "creative" alterations of double guns. You own'em and although I might disagree with your concepts of repair and restoration, they're your property.

In this thread, things are a little different.

Here's a question:

Just who in H%ll do you think you are to pass judgement on other's who are your free and equal citizens about how they exercise their Constitutional rights? These people here are not criminals, although you obviously desire that they become ones. Obviously, you think the the concepts of freedom and equality only apply to YOU. That's typical of people of your ilk, you have no problem supporting sociopathic politicians/policies who are more than happy to take other's freedoms away. Then you demonize them and call them names. Why would you possibly consider it any of your business?

You should be ashamed of yourself.





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Yes Mike:
That's what the founding fathers clearly intended when they wrote the Constitution. However here's the opinion of one of the Supreme Court Justices who took an oath to uphold the Constitution. Her utter contempt of this document is well documented.
Jim



As an Aside: We've had trouble with Libtard appointees to the Supreme Court at least since Eisenhauer appointed Earl Warren. Ike claimed this was the biggest mistake he made as President.

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mike: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

it don't say nothin here about military weapons ...it just says we have the right to keep and bear arms, in the context of a well regulated militia. you may think it means something else. but that aint what hit says.

and if you think it pertains to military weapons only, many, myself included will disagree with you...


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ken: well, I don't know who these other citizens are that you refer to...for that matter, I don't even know who you are? are you an American citizen? i am one and i can prove it.

and as for supporting sociopathic politicians, I am currently promoting rick perry for pres. i was not aware that he was a sociopath and looking to take away any of our rights. i read his book. did you? appears like he would like to restore some of our rights, if you can believe what he says in his book.


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ed the militias used the same firearms as the military when the amendment was written.

Do you think "keep and bear arms" meant bows and arrows? Or slingshots? Or rocks?

And I never said it "pertains to military weapons only".



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[quote=italiansxs]Yes Mike:
That's what the founding fathers clearly intended when they wrote the Constitution. However here's the opinion of one of the Supreme Court Justices who took an oath to uphold the Constitution. Her utter contempt of this document is well documented.
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jim: how do you know what the founding fathers clearly intended when they wrote the Constitution? were you there? course not. so, all you really know is what they wrote. everything else after that is interpretation by others, like you, me, mike, and yes, even justice Ginsburg, etc.

there is one thing that is clearly documented in this misfires forum...you and a few others here have utter contempt for those here who do not march in lock step to your views...so much for a republican democracy...

When Ben Franklin was carried from the constitutional convention in September of 1787, he was stopped in the street by a woman who said, “Mr. Franklin, what have you wrought?” Franklin said, “A republic, madam, if you can keep it.”

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mike: it is true that the militias used the same firearms as the regular army. specifically 69 and 75 caliber smoothbore muskets...but the second amendment don't say nuttin about firearms. is just says arms, which could very well include all types of weapons, including, knives, swords, spears and bows, etc. the wording of the second amendment is precise, so we all know we have the right to keep and bear arms. but what those arms are is left to interpretation, in the context of a well regulated milita...course now we get into what is a well regulated militia? that is not defined anywhere in the constitution that I am aware of.


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