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I have a 16GA Sauer SXS double that would make a nice rifle. Can someone recommend a gunsmith who can do the conversion?
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I know Del Whitman of Lake Ann MI has done it, but it is neither as cheap or as easy as you might think to change to rifle barrels and regulate them to shoot to point of aim. Have you considered working up a custom slug load? A double rifle is inherently a short range gun in any event and you ought to be able to get usable slug accuracy out to 75 or 100 yards with plenty of knockdown power. Beyond that, use a single barrel rifle, lever, turn bolt, or SS. If you really have a need for a buffalo or elephant stopper, pay the money for a big bore British or European stopper because you are betting lives on the gun.
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Barrels are not the only problem . The question is whether the action is strong enough to take the extra pressures of a rifle round ?
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This is something I can do. PM me the project details if interested.
A.M. Little Bespoke Gunmakers LLC. Mineola, TX Michael08TDK@yahoo.com 682-554-0044
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Vol423, I don't have experience with Americans that do this work, but there are some. With regard to the strength of your action, it should be ok, assuming a double under bite and Greener cross bolt. If it has side clips, so much the better.This same frame could have been used if the factory were building a double rifle in normal calibers up to 9.3x74R ( or extra double rifle barrels for a double shotgun).Depending on the particular action and choice of caliber, it may be necessary to either "bush" the firing pins or convert them to "gas tight type", if they are "hound's tooth type"(ie part of the hammer).Also you should have,at least,the front trigger converted to " single set type" and have a scope mounted before the barrels are "regulated". If you need to save money, save by not replacing the stock(this can be done at anytime, if the current one doesn't satisfy you) or converting the trigger. For my use a set trigger is necessary, but this can also be done later.My own sad experience shows that a later scope mounting can affect the barrel regulation. Mike
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"Building Double Rifles on Shotgun Actions" by W. Ellis Brown may be a good place to start to get a full understanding of what needs to be done. Or have a big, fat checkbook.
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Interesting reading on the NitroExpress /Building Double Rifles forum: http://forums.nitroexpress.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=dblbuildMuch first hand info, projects, suggestions from experience. Some people that build them for their own enjoyment and a few that may take on project.
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I had a good conversation with gunmaker. One issue is that an action the size of a 16GA shotgun does not make a petite rifle. You can do OK with large calibers like 45-70 and rifles over 40 caliber, but the little stuff like a 30-40 Krag with heavier barrel walls will make a 9 pound plus gun. I'm not going to carry such a beast. If you look at most heavy caliber double rifles, they are on 20 gauge size actions. I have a VC 9.3X74R DR and a Merkel DR drilling in the same caliber, and both are on 28 gauge size actions.
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They don't have to be that heavy on 16 ga actions, it depends on the barrel taper( may require a wider wedge and ribs, however). Mike
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I have had this done. After all was said and completed, I would have been better off buying an off the shelf rifle. Your experience may be different. Pete
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