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foxie: no,no, not lurk, but lerk...a derivative of jerk.


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You wouldn't be corrupted, though, by "making a deal" to buy Dave's integrity? The notion that money can buy anything. What an insult!

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mc: you pretty liberal wid da insults to motherhood aint ya? I would be more careful if I were you...I don't know no ed ladner, but then neither do you?


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
You wouldn't be corrupted, though, by "making a deal" to buy Dave's integrity? The notion that money can buy anything. What an insult!


It's not corrupting of anyone's integrity to banish someone who desecrates old doubles and posts gibberish from participating on a Double Gun website. No more than it would be to banish an anti-Second Amendment Liberal Socialist troll posing as a gun guy. Or is that what you're afraid of King?


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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mc, it sounds like you struck a nerve with ed, but it's old Ed Lander, not Ladner, who gets the blame or credit for torch coloring ed goods guns.

ed won't give us contact information for old Ed Lander so that we can confirm that. Too bad. Maybe old Ed Lander would like to make a pledge to permanently ban ed as well.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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If everyone would simply ignore any posting by E. G. it would be as effective as banning him. No one has to read his posts or comments or reply in any way to them so don't do it.
"If you don't throw the ball back, the game's over."

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ed won't give us contact information for old Ed Lander so that we can confirm that.


Not that hard to find contact info. Took me about eight seconds. Don't know if the contact info is any good, but it's on the interweb thingy, so it must be accurate.

E A Lander Arms Company
4 Grafton Road
Alexandria, NH 03222
Phone: (603) 744-6512

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should any of you decide to call and harass old ed, please be aware that he is 88 years old and just lost his wife of 68 years...and remember, what goes around comes around.


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Similar references are common, Brian. I never thought of him as a constitutional lawyer, outstanding or otherwise. He gave his reasons for pulling back from overseas adventures and has laboured with public support to bring troops home, particularly with your own experience, what, five time re-deploying? As for speaking off the cuff, it's common advice from handlers to the eloquent for effect on particular occasions. Stentorian tones for others. Just for the fun of it, who do you consider the most eloquent or cerebral in the last generation?


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you did not answer my question. you evaded it. you talked around it.

You stated “ Obama is considered the most cerebral and eloquent American leader in a generation.”
I asked you who considers Obama the most cerebral American leader in a generation?
You respond not by answering a simple question but by asking me “Just for the fun of it, who do you consider the most eloquent or cerebral in the last generation”?

You further state “I think Obama's legacy will be as a pretty good president for hard times, perhaps in the top third. Maybe even higher”. Compared to who? Jimmy carter wakes up every day now with a smile on his face. There is no one in the media that I have heard proclaiming that, liberal or conservative since the shine went off his apple with Obamacare, Bowe Bergdahl,
You then respond with “Similar references are common, Brian.” Really? I haven’t seen him described by anyone in the mainstream media as being the most cerebral or sharpest president , now or in the last 4 or 5 years after the novelty of a Black President wore off. I do remember him being described as a clean erson by one of your fellow travelers. And the LA Times ( a liberal rag) labeled him Barack The Majic Negro). Quite the contrary. He is most often spoken of as being a “good talker”. ( read that as snake oil salesman) . Who lies with aplomb and conviction ; If you like your health care you can keep your health care” If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor” when in fact he knew 2 years prior that that was not true yet perpetuated the lie over and over.

You stated " I never thought of him as a constitutional lawyer, outstanding or otherwise. Really, part of his claim to fame is teaching constitutional law. That infers that one is an expert on constitutional law. I guess not and he has proven that time and again. He claims to have taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago for a number of years.
You stated “He gave his reasons for pulling back from overseas adventures and has labored with public support to bring troops home”. Really. It took him over two years to suspend combat operations in Iraq. Yes, we are back with more “advisors” and soldiers to protect those advisors. And he closed GITMO like he said he would ;oh wait, he didn’t. And we are still in Afghanistan and the level of casualties and deaths increased drastically under his administration compared to Bush.
And then you mention my 5 deployments. I have no idea what that has to do with this discussion or Obama.

You state “ As for speaking off the cuff, it's common advice from handlers to the eloquent for effect on particular occasions. Stentorian tones for others. “ I never spoke of his tone while speaking. I was referring to his stumbling and bumbling and stuttering and poor presentation when there is no teleprompter in front of him.
The technique normally used by those who want to evade answering a question is to respond with a question or an ad hominem attack.

So, getting back to my question, can you answer it without deflection. It was a simple straight forward question about a statement you made. Please cite who/where it was declared that he is the most cerebral president in a generation.

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Don't hold you breath awaiting a direct answer to you question. Past experience on the part of many of us can assure you it won't be forthcoming.
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