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now that we are trying to be nice to each other, lets see how far I get with this thread before it blows up in my face.

first, some like erm. some don't.

second, some colors are applied as a by product of heat treating. some colors are applied via a chemical process that does not require enough heat to change the original factory heat treatment of the metal.

third, of those who like receiver case colors, some don't care how the colors are applied; and some, particularly here, insist that the only acceptable method of applying receiver case colors is via a high heat process, that necessitates re heat treating of the receiver metal.

fourth, over the years, I have sold many guns with receivers that have had their case colors replaced. some via the high heat method. some via the low heat method. interestingly, none of my customers have ever complained about the receiver case colors on their new gun. seems like they are happy with the way it looks and really don't care how the colors were applied.

your thoughtful and gentlemanly responses would be appreciated.

ed when you first started posting here you or your gun mechanic were using a high heat acetylene torch method. There were birdseyes and many other tell-tales. You probably harmed the case hardening of the doubles that were done that way. Drew Hause has pictures of your torched colors on his website.

After your first big battle here over case colors you (or your gun mechanic) switched to what is essentially the Ithaca/Perazzi method with low heat by torch and a chemical application. I think that that method does not harm the case hardening. No harm, no foul in my opinion.

I agree with you that the the bone charcoal method may cause warpage of the action. But a competent gunsmith can put it back right.

I wouldn't have a gun case colored by either the chemical/low heat or the bone charcoal method. I would leave it as is. I would never, ever, ever harden one with just an acetylene torch the way you (or your gunsmith) used to do it.

mike: I do not know the exact methods utilized by the many practitioner of re case coloring. some redone receivers I have seen do have birds eye patterns as you suggest. but, exactly how those patterns were applied is beyond my knowledge. as to damage of receivers due to recoloring, so far I have yet to have a complaint regarding a damaged receiver, regardless of the method utilized. so, from my perspective it is a mute point. so long as my customers are happy, I am happy.

and to respond to your accusation above, I do no gunsmithing of any kind. I neither have the patience nor the skills required to do such work.

Does beating a dead horse over and over come under the heading of childish behavior?

And it is "moot point", ed. Most of us wish you would make mute points.



BOOM!

Was not an accusation. Just covering all possibilities.

It was obvious from the pictures which method was used.

In the event that the unknowing might do a search for 'Receiver Case Colors'

NID factory colors



"RECEIVER HAS BEEN RECOLORED AND NOW APPEARS SIMILAR TO ORIGINAL ITHACA FACTORY COLORS"



More images here
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/12588446

BOOM again, and +100 Drew.

But who wouldn't want a gun that looks like a bad LSD trip???

Thanks Drew!

This receiver was done with acetylene torch. No doubt the case hardening was damaged:



ed's guns are now done with Ithaca / Perazzi low temp torch and chemical:


Does anybody remember the chemical? Does iodine sound right? Cold blue?

ed, your guns have all the beauty of a pool of fresh rain water with a liberal application of diesel fuel on the surface.