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I recently purchased a gun for the 1st time, from C.WATSON'S ORANGE-COAST AUCTIONS that was described by them thusly; "Condition is excellent,and exhibiting only light marks from handling to stock, and small areas of micro-scratching to barrel". The gun arrived today and while I got a good buy on it; had I not I would have really been pissed. As it was, it was PUFFED MORE THAN GRASS, AT A GRATEFUL DEAD CONCERT. I FEEL THEIR DECRIPTIVE POWERS ARE A TOTAL SHAM! What's more, Accuracy does not enter into their vocabulary. What they described as micro scratches were in fact, the majority of bluing about 1/2 inch from the muzzle back missing, with numerous long scratches running up to an 1/8th. of an in. wide and 2 ins. long, along the top and underside of the barrel. The stock was covered in every conceivable type of bump, ding, nick, scratch, gouge, dent, and mar, known to gun owner and stockmaker. If I were selling this gun, I would grade it at no more than 80%. To sum it up did I get screwed, No... but did I get the gun they described HELL NO! The only thing that saved me was the price was good, but then with the on site bidders there to see it and with only one person bidding against me [on site] THAT MAYBE SAYS IT ALL! The thing to take away from this is Beware! Oh BTW if you're saying maybe I just had an unusual bad experience, I Googled them and one of the first hits I found was a Luger collector talking about them listing a fake Luger, soooooooooo CAVEAT EMPTOR with CAROL WATSON'S, IT WASN'T ELEMENTARY. HTH


Posted by Alvin Linden
Appearing on page 3 of this thread
Dated: Wed Jun 11 2014 05:48 PM


A little after 3:20p.m.EST,I received a call from Carol Watson herself, she started by saying she heard I was disappointed in the item I received, I detailed all the problems stated here including one omitted [the barrel was listed as excellent, but I received it so dirty you could hardly see lands and grooves differentiated,in it. How could they tell? I couldn't until it was cleaned [it took over an hour], and it was fine. SHE APOLOGIZED AND OFFERED A FULL REFUND INCLUDING FULL SHIPPING. I found her to be a very nice person, with an interest in making things right. I declined, and told her that I was going to put some money, into getting it brought up to their description. I TOLD HER THE PERSON DOING THE DESCRIPTION ON HER GUNS COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLY SEEN THIS RIFLE, AND DESCRIBED IT AS SUCH! I strongly suggested she rethink the person in this job and maybe a person familiar with guns, was an improvement.

Just like my Grandfather advised- women "Carol" have no business dealing in a man's world- What in the Blue Bonnet Blazes does some femme have in selling firearms at an auction site anyway--Thanks for spreading the word, and I recently went through two counterfeited "Black Widow" P08 Lugers for a friend of mine who thought he hadn't lived until he owned a Luger--

Could you give us an item number in the auction so we can look at the picture of the gun you bought? I just scanned the entire auction for clues, and am not smart enough to ferret out the particular rifle. Thanks.

Fox.. just what are you saying here?, that guns & shooting, and the selling of firearms is only a mans world?..surely not, because that is pure bullshit mate.
How about the Fausti girls, or some lady trying to sell her dead hubby's guns?
"Carol" may be a shyster, but so is that dude Sly we all rag on for crap pics n descriptions
What do you mean by your post exactly?
Franc

I agree with Franc.

Another point, I have a male cousin named Carol. Baby boomer from Arkansas, names by a third generation Arkansas family. So Carol isn't necessarily a female.

Yes, your point is well taken. I had forgotten Carroll O'Connor (Archie Bunker)- so maybe this shyster gun dealer that almost scalped one of my favorite posters on this Forum thingy is really man- with a ladies name and if I may make so bold as to say- a piss-poor excuse for a man, who miss-represents the items he is trying to schlep-- Bad form indeed.

Eightbore: Well normally I have found that when I have asked that of others, I have gotten a resounding NO!, due to them not wanting anyone to know what they paid and the problems associated with a gun. However I feel that these people's transgressions are so egregious and serious, I most certainly will. The # is 155564. I have made contact with Roger regarding a "touch up" of the issues and am going to have them put right,in keeping with the gun's age. I contacted a fellow gun collector, who worked with me at the "Roads and Highway Dept." outside Washington D.C., in the photo intel section and ask him to look at the gun's photos. I asked how the photos could have hidden the defects? He ran a program on them and said they had been clearly manipulated, by a person to hide fine detail. As I said before be careful!

Can't seem to locate that item number.

We need the Lot #, not the serial number.

I believe this would be the gun, if you don't mind me posting this. I searched the serial and this seems to match your description. https://cwocauctions.proxibid.com/asp/Lo...del-70-BA-Rifle