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Nah, that cat was a famed Simson club car racer who founded some type of firm in 1934 and then capitalized in the post WWII chaos to rise to the top by providing the unknowing Russians with examples that were cobbled together from pre-WWII quality components. I could easily be mistaken, but I have strong suspicions that Otto Rief Suhl had Edgar Strempel or some other most talented mechanic under his thumb as well as being well supplied with Sauer & Simsom components. I would not doubt he traded components for effort. Then when the flew the coop, he lost his marks/pigeons and the Americans already had the market in the West and he was a small fish in a large pool and slipped into history. I find it interesting that Edgar Strempel assumed the same role supplying the Russians with examples utilizing the same components at the instance that Otto Reif took flight. Otto Rief still has some descendants that propagate his tale, but mostly about auto racing.
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Raimey
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A lovely Merkel sidelock from 1931, tube extensions, Purdey nose, with interesting pin configuration discovered by Marc:     It wears only a single JY stamp that Günter & I are chasing. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Dear Raimey,
Thank you for your caution. It would be difficulty to pinpoint a manufacturer at present, though we have exhausted all clues. I will try to lay my hands on the firearm to record makers and proof marks. Keep my finger crosses.
Best wishes,
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 Strempel Orig. Holland-Holland  Strempel Orig. Holland-Holland   Barella pin configuration similar to Merkel below Merkel Sidelock pin configuration very similar to Barella above  Beijing Police Museum example  Otto Reif example from 1947 The Germans must have had their own devised their own Orig. Holland-Holland & Holland-Holland lock variant. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Thanks Gunwolf, but can you acquire an image of the component side of the locks?
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Raimey
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I'll try to get one…
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It would appear that Otto Reif was registered as having a gunmaker storefront from the late 1920s until the mid 1930s. During this same period I've seen info that suggest he either acquired Wilhelm Heym or was a silent money backer? And at some point was involved with Römerwerk. Then on Oktober 10th, 1946 he is listed as a Direktor of Sauer & Sohn.
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