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Originally Posted By: AmarilloMike
But the majority rule of our democracy is trumped by the Constitution. In a true democracy wouldn't majority rule be all there is?


Nope, although I'm not a constitutional lawyer, thank God. A democracy, even one grounded in common law, can have a constitution. And your constitution can be amended. To a large degree, modern usage that separates the term democracy from republic is really only indicating one has an elected head of state and the other has a constitutional monarch or appointee as head of state.


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We vote for the people who we expect to do our wishes and this is something our current slate of senators, representatives, AND the idiot in the oval office are NOT doing.


Happens everywhere people vote.

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So when did Dave in Maine burn down my house? When did King injure my family?....


I bear no grudge or anger, but no doubt in my mind that the ideology has injured my family. We face significant cost increases in taxes, fees, regulations and healthcare with absolutely nothing to show for it in societal improvement. No infrastructure or foreign relationship improvement. More debt, poor and unhealthy than ever. Less jobs and optimism for the future than...I can't recall. I respect elections, but rhetorically, where am I wrong.


Craig, the same argument can be made about Bush getting you into the Iraq war. Gigantic expense, lost lives and little or nothing to show for it. Every government wastes money, does stupid things. The Left doesn't have a lock on that. They just usually do a lot more of it.

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I will send money to my party, my candidates, and vote.

I am against affirmative action, political correctness, years of unemployment insurance payments for the unemployed, abortion, the war on coal, the guerrilla war on fossil fuels, Obamacare, subsidizing solar and wind energy, gun control, non-universal income tax, and the left's domination of the network news.

I am for food stamps, social security, medicare, medicaid, and programs that try to divert drug addicts to treatment in lieu of prison, progressive income tax, user taxes on fuel to maintain highways and airports, and states' rights.

Now if I am uncivil to everyone that disagrees with me on any of this I will never be civil. And if we gun owners exclude everyone that disagrees with us about any of the items in my list we are going to lose our effectiveness in promoting our sport, hobby, self defense rights, and our guns.



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At the end of WWII we owed about 100% of GDP. We never paid it off. The Greatest Generation grew the economy and inflated the dollar and so that debt didn't matter any more.

Something else - I am against amnesty for illegal aliens and I am for deporting them as fast as we can with due process.

I am for reinstating the tariffs and import quotas we once had too.

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Originally Posted By: canvasback
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....No....foreign relationship improvement....


....the same argument can be made about Bush getting you into the Iraq war. Gigantic expense, lost lives and little or nothing to show for it....


I believe the little or nothing to show for it has to do with credibility lost over the last five or so years. At every turn in foreign relations from super powers to small specks on the map, does anyone in this world know where the US stands or have any respect for its telegraphed indecision. The US, with unanimous world support, took charge in a volatile region with a history of heavy russian/soviet influence. Hardly nothing, until it was squandered.

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Originally Posted By: AmarilloMike
All we are suggesting is civility in our discussions with those members that disagree with us here on this board. No compromise, just civility between members in our discussions here on this board.


Agree completely... almost... one caveat... I've said it before and I'll repeat it now. Dishonesty is not civility. I can be as civil as anyone, but I draw the line with people who continually spout lies and bullshit, especially when it is for the sole purpose of advancing an agenda which has increased my taxes, weakened my country, and infringed upon my freedoms. Then the gloves are off.

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So when did Dave in Maine burn down my house? When did King injure my family?

Hunters and shooters need to attract voters to our sport and our hobby. If we insist that they have to be pro-life, anti-gay marriage, anti-ObamaCare, anti-welfare, pro-states' rights, anti-renewable energy and pro-fossil fuels before we deign to be friendly and civil to them the Second Amendment and our gun rights are doomed.


Dave-in-Maine did not burn down my house. But he did tell bold faced lies to us last year when he denied supporting Obama. When I reproduced quotes from earlier threads proving that he was lying, he slithered away. Good riddance to a lying so-called gun guy who did his best to sabotage our rights.

King did not injure my family... directly. But he continually espouses a system which steals tax dollars (read that as time out of my finite life, and labor which exacts a toll on ones body) from my family and me in order to redistribute wealth to millions who are neither disabled or infirm. They are merely lazy and choose to suck off the government teat. His bloviating self-aggrandizement and resume inflation are well known and on full display in this very thread. We even had King, the self professed Athiest invoking Christ's name in order to shame Jim into supporting welfare leeches back on pg.6. We also had him on pg.7 trumpeting the many infringements upon the 2nd Amendment in various locales, as proof that it is not inviolate, while ignoring the fact that it is folks like him who support and defend and elect the Liberal Democrats who tirelessly work to steal our rights.

King doesn't have to load his airplane with fuel and crash it into your house to do damage. Liberal Socialists like King have done tremendous damage to this country with pen and typewriter.

We have two Canadian regulars here... James and King. James frequently shares his experiences with Canadian Gun Control and warns us to be vigilant. James and I disagree on some things, but always courteously. King, on the other hand, spends an inordinate amount of time here trying to convince or LULL us that there is no threat to the Second Amendment, that we should concede ground to the anti gunners to appease them, that the NRA is wrong and counterproductive, and that anti-gun Liberal Socialist Democrat politicians are actually good for us and good for the country. I'm sorry. With all due respect to those who think we can have a productive dialog with someone like that, and win converts by showing him a level of respect... I think you're wrong. And I think that kind of civility, where none is deserved, gives him and his kind a level of credibility which paves the road to ruin. Neville Chaimberlain was said to be a very civil and accomodating man...


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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I do not believe we went into Iraq with unanimous world support. Many did not believe the claims of Weapons of Mass destruction and urged caution. We had no UN mandate, but a coalition. Iraq was a huge mistake in terms of dollars spent and the loss of US integrity on the world stage. I completely agree that Obama's foreign policy is a mess, but I do not feel Bush did very well in that area either. As I have stated before, in my view, plenty of blame to go around after two failed administrations in a row. A sad state of affairs.


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keith I think we show civility to those that disagree with us for our benefit, not theirs.

I am going to be offline. I am going to Lubbock for the NSTRA West Texas Regional Championships Trials to run my dogs. Not that I am bragging but all four are qualified. It is too difficult to type on my IPhone so I won't be posting.

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Mike, you think your dogs are qualified?

King's dogs would be doing the typing on the IPhone as they drove the truck on their way to pick up the equivalent of the Nobel Prize for canine excellence.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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