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Looks close to No. 3: a group showed up at Bunkerville for a photo-op. But to be a militia, "the whole body" had to be of an age and physically fit for military service. Notice those gray heads and bellies-over-belts, Jim? Looked more like the militia at my last birthday party.

So your definition of able bodied discriminates against older individuals? That's some what strange coming from a committed Libtard.

Lets see: Since most definitions I've seen over the years specifically states "able bodied men" I guess that means no females could be members of the militia either?

Sometimes you "logic" escapes me and I believe the majority
of the members of this board.

Tench Coxe, a prominent American political economist of the day (1755�1824) who attended the earlier constitutional convention in Annapolis, explained (in the Pennsylvania Federal Gazette on June 18, 1789) the founders' definition of who the militia was intended to be and their inherent distrust of standing armies under the direct control of 'civil rulers' when he wrote:


"The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ...the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."

The above is the intent of the United States founding fathers and is as valid today for most of us as it was 200 years ago. I believe a goodly portion of the responsible citizens will continue to stand up for and if necessary die to retain our rights to freedom. This oppressive and illegal Obama administration has accomplished ONE thing in the past 5 years and that's provide a wakeup call as to what a demonic socialist in the mold of a Hitler or Stalin can accomplish if left unchecked.
I suspect he remains as clueless as to just how close he was to an armed rebellion as he is about the happenings in the former USSR.

Jim, you provided the definition, not me. No. 3 makes no gender distinction. No. 3 said of eligible age for military service. Any discrimination against age is in your common definition, nothing to do with me.

"Logic" doesn't enter into it. Erosion of the Second often pivots on various jurisdictional interpretations of militias. That's why I asked how many militias were heading for Bunkerville, as reported here, and what exactly is a militia.

That "whole body" could have been a militia of six or 60 according to your common definition No. 3. Take your pick!

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"Jim, you provided the definition, not me. No. 3 makes no gender distinction. No. 3 said of eligible age for military service. Any discrimination against age is in your common definition, nothing to do with me. "

I guess you are at the point where you'll try to lie right here in public. I provided you with THREE definitions and said take you pick. You're the one that was nitpicking here and if you think age or sex discrimination are as you indicated above allowable then please defend your point. Personally I think the woman's libbers and AARP representatives are going to eat you for lunch but that's the choice you've made.
From what I see you have now exposed yourself not only as a Libtard anti-gun person but a closet anti-woman's rights individual as well. Wow! It's hard to believe one individual could have this many varied and contradictory prejudices! I guess it takes many years and a muddled brain to get to this point!

It sure looks like King is referring to age, specifically the age of participants in the militia. Why is he dishonestly attempting to saddle Jim with the age discrimination against gray haired men? I wonder if it takes a hard flat belly and dark hair to aim and squeeze a trigger? I know I wouldn't want my Dad shooting at me. Maybe King should lead by example and turn in his guns.

It also looks like King is looking for any technicality that would disqualify participation in the militia.

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials." There's your answer King... from George Mason. The original intent is clear enough that even you might understand it.

But I'm thinking you are more in tune with Michael Moore who said, "If the guy out in the woods with the Michigan Militia is a real estate negotiator, instead of some crackpot, and has a normal life, that's unnerving. You don't want to think it's as normal as the guy next door, hedging his lawn. It's easier to demonize or separate them off from 'us'."

What's next King? Are you going to advance the Liberal Democrat argument that the National Guard has replaced the militia of the Second Amendment? That seems to be the direction you are taking. I won't put words in your mouth, but then again, I don't have to. You've made it abundantly clear lately that you feel the Second Amendment has no teeth, and is subject to the whims of Liberal Progressives like you.

First you try to LULL us into thinking the Second Amendment is in no danger from anti-gunners, which was your position in the aftermath of Newtown... then you try to say it isn't worth the parchment it's written on.

Jim, by any definition of militia---the OED's or the three "common" ones you mentioned---only No. 3 came close to describing the Bunkerville arrivals. Close. Members earlier posted the militias were coming. I asked if they had arrived; no reply.

You asked me to choose from your three definitions of militia to determine if the Bunkerville protestors comprised a militia. I inferred that there may have been a militia depending on how many met eligibility for military service as described in No. 3.

No. 3 ruled out those of a certain age and physical fitness. Most of them looked like those who came to my last birthday party: grey-haired and overweight. Apparently any US group can call themselves a militia. As for the libbers, I'm safe as a church.

My family has been involved for generations in womens' rights. My grandmother was a suffragette who chained herself to lamp posts to win the right to vote. My mother fought banks requiring a husband's signature for a loan. My three daughters watch me like hawks.

I taught community women for years how to influence big bugs to make transformative change. Night classes, Jim. How to write press releases, appear on television, make their own TV and radio documentaries of what they do and feel about what they do, etc. No one makes messes on their heads!

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"I taught community women for years how to influence big bugs to make transformative change."

Well you have me there! I don't have any experience as an exterminator my self.

Back to the top... waiting for King to cover it all with more lies and Bullshit.

Maybe big jugs have a transformative appeal to most guys. Okay, I'll crawl back under my rock.

You'll have a lot of company under the rock...


Best,
Ted