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Jim posted that the confrontation is interesting. Mike predicted accurately how it will end. Citizenship demands defence of the constitution and laws of the land. Citizens can't pick which laws they will accept. Citizens are free to advocate making and amending laws. To take up arms as militias in this case to arbitrarily change the law to serve one wealthy rancher is a violation of allegiance to America, hardly deserving of support here. Some may call it treason. I think ignorance.

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We live right next door to this thing, 30 miles. Our county commissioners, Washington County and Iron County Utah say they back Clive Bundy and his family.

Our county commissioners have pointed out that the BLM has a responsibility to manage the wild horses in our counties, a task at which the BLM is failing miserably at,

SO if the BLM would rather spend their time rounding up someones privately owned cattle instead of doing their job and managing the wild horses which over populate our counties, where all these "special tortoise live", then they will have no alternative other than to instruct our County Sheriff to start thinning out the wild horse populations . The resolution has been passed and sent to the BLM.......

http://fox13now.com/2014/04/04/nevada-cattle-at-center-of-battle-between-federal-county-officials/


The "tortoise" b.s. is just a muse, for weenie media and public consumption .....there are MORE wild horses than there are Clives cattle......so why won't the all important and caring BLM worker bees thin out the horses like they are supposed to, which do more damage to the land than the cattle.



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If the militias' confrontation should come to a dimwit pulling a trigger on either side, what should concern most of us here is whether it will hurt or strengthen the Second Amendment which needs all the help it can get, Doug. I'd be surprised if NRA supported militias taking the law into their own hands.

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Once again NO CLUE King,

And once again LIES and about ANY NRA connection in this.Your just mad because you LOST your battle against he NRA to give in after Newtown. Get over it YOU LOST,the NRA and the children and parents who are not protected by armed resource officers WON !

do us ALL a favor and stop worrying about our 2nd Amendment,we are all happy that we don't have to live under the oppressive Canadian gun laws and certainly don't need or want your advice to take us down that road !


Putting aside who is right or wrong,this military overreach of the Federal Government need to be stopped,one look at the no fly zones and shutting down the cell towers,creating "free speech zones" (WTF is next 2nd Amendment zones ?) as well as the killing off if his property should make EVERY American be concerned.

If you want to dig abit,go past the bogus turtle protection and look into Reid and the Chinese Solar Farms


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Better yet King why don't you preach your panty waist, limp wristed, lulling, blather to the inmates of some old age home. You would have a better audience. By GOD this is AMERICA.


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Cool it, Dave. I never said anything about NRA connection. You some growly bear just out of hibernation across the bay?

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It is America, for sure, JRB. Anyone pro-gun as all members here should recognize that giving ammunition to the grabbers, as a militias' futile and possibly tragic confrontation would do, does nothing to protect gun rights.

Ask Jim.

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"Cool it, Dave. I never said anything about NRA connection. You some growly bear just out of hibernation across the bay?"


Originally Posted By: King Brown
If the militias' confrontation should come to a dimwit pulling a trigger on either side, what should concern most of us here is whether it will hurt or strengthen the Second Amendment which needs all the help it can get, Doug. I'd be surprised if NRA supported militias taking the law into their own hands.


Whats up King, forgetting what you just posted ?That winery has the same rules as the drug dealers I thought, "don't get hooked on the product"


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....Citizenship demands defence of the constitution and laws of the land. Citizens can't pick which laws they will accept. Citizens are free to advocate making and amending laws. To take up arms as militias in this case to arbitrarily change the law to serve one wealthy rancher is a violation of allegiance to America, hardly deserving of support here. Some may call it treason. I think ignorance.


All around this situation are glaring examples of where the constitution and laws of the land are ignored, progressively modified, selectively enforced or ridiculed. Why an absolute here, and a lecture just a day or two ago about gun RIGHTS subject to erosion by complacency.

Near daily, examples are brought up around here about exceptions to the law for lib progressive agenda advancement. Take the always correct social warrior bo due to the pc romance of his race, hasn't he unilaterally change the ocare LAW some thirty plus times...so far.

Maybe blame you, meaning the 'world acclaimed, award winning' mainstream media. Since there's no pc gay, women, race, class or green warfare issue, the only way this POOR rancher has to make his case is to toy with the media's blood thirst.

So many deals are cut with 'friends', what stops this guy from getting an invite to dc for an award. In a very harsh environment, he's converting a tiny bit of renewable, worthless weeds into something the average citizen wants and needs. I'd have a passing curiosity if this rancher has been a de facto, unappreciated immigration observer.

Thanks Doug for a local view point on the issue.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
It is America, for sure, JRB. Anyone pro-gun as all members here should recognize that giving ammunition to the grabbers, as a militias' futile and possibly tragic confrontation would do, does nothing to protect gun rights.

Ask Jim.


Just a quick rerun because I do not advocate for repetition becoming fact. There should not be an automatic association but you do remind us of tactics. Futility and tragedy are conclusions, why.

Again, a poor rancher eking out a tough living in a dispute is being lectured about following the constitution and laws. While, it's pc okay to equivocate that with some vague, progressive, inevitable loss of a right.

Are you offering help, or is this an 'I told you so' cocktail party joke when you and the grabbers win.

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