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So, someone here thinks Alinsky's student Obama is "protecting" our rights?
GIVE....ME....A....BREAK

For members who want to see how far US public discourse has fallen, google the video of young Bill Buckley and Saul Alinsky in debate. Two of America's finest intellects, razor-sharp wit, mutual respect, without a voice raised, neither out of their depth. If you want to see cool, this is it. The pity's they're gone.

Gary, Obama is hell-bent on stricter regulations on gun ownership to the point of seizure, for sure, in a violent country where one of the most powerful lobbies in Washington says the solution to providing public safety is armed guards in every school. I said Alinsky, not Obama, was a an organizing genius in teaching communities how to protect their rights.

If Alinsky were alive today I don't think he'd waste his time on protecting gun rights because of higher priorities of national interests, economy, jobs, poverty, etc. I seem to recall a national poll last fall that had gun rights way down the list, a surprising-to-me 15th-place or so in what was on American minds. Makes sense in that the Gallup poll says Americans generally favour their gun laws.

As long as the US is a democracy, the law will reflect the public interest.

Many of us don't consider protecting gun rights as a waste of time.
Mike

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"I don't think he'd waste his time on protecting gun rights "

Typical Libtard opinion of one of our constitutional rights. This is the right that insures we maintain our other rights.
And this is why Libtards like King Brown have NO credibility on this forum.
And as far as priorities go it's low on the list because Congress isn't considering any more unconstitutional legislation at this time.
Jim

Again you've deliberately misconstrued meaning of your subject "Who is Saul Alinsky," first with a phoney post about his work and character, and now that Alinsky would not protect constitutional rights. I believe you are of good character but why do you get it so wrong?

You warn us of coming totalitarianism, a breakdown of law and order, a failure to witness the common verities, of losing faith in your country and then slag a distinguished American who taught the have-nots and ordinary citizens, Republicans and Democrats, how to GET their constitutional rights.

And you're wrong again on why gun rights and gun control are such low priorities in American consciousness. As closely as I remember, the national poll that placed gun rights at 17th place in American consciousness was taken during last November's campaign.

Alinsky was more concerned with housing, a roof over heads, hunger, jobs, poverty, access to constitutional rights---all those things you concern yourself with in your church and service clubs---than someone taking guns away from a comfortable majority in love with its guns.

Give it up. No Americans on this Forum really care what you think anymore then any responsible Canadian would care what I thought about the goings on there. You have no real idea of what's actually happening in parts of this Country that still value the U S Constitution.
If you like your Alinsky you're more than welcome to keep your Alinsky and the majority of forums members here would just as soon send any and all of his ilk to your Provence.
I don't believe I misconstrued anything in my post about Alinsky.
However; To even come close in equaling the amount of misconstrued information not to mention the outright B.S you've posted here would require that I type night and day for weeks.

The first act of suppression by the British crown towards the colonists was denying freedom of speech(which the Brits were famous for),hence the first amendment; the second act of suppression was an attempt to disarm the colonists(another famous British tactic) and we see how well that worked out. This is why the right to keep and bear arms is the 2nd amendment, but IT PROTECTS ALL OTHER AMERICAN FREEDOMS and is the most important freedom a human can have......a little U.S. History lesson for the British colony to the north. As my old man fought in WWII against tyranny I will, out of respect for him and as a U.S. citizen, never embrace an ideology or political theory that infringes on Americans freedoms. I have no use for socialists, communists, liberals, or community organizers like Alinsky and Obama, nor anyone who idolizes trash such as they. Note: in every country that has embraced socialism, draconian restrictions on personal firearm ownership has swiftly followed.......including Britain; no handguns allowed and severe restrictions against long guns. Go sell socialism someplace else.

Ah, a typical attempt at asserting a "Moral Equivalent". The real question is: What is the subjective morality behind the ideology? In Alinsky's case it was clearly unconstitutional, totalitarian, statism. It was based on sociopathic infliction in order to gain political power. It certainly was not based on the morality of individual freedom and equality.

It's obviously frustrating---"Give it up"--for a neighbour to comment on the merits, omissions and inaccuracies of your posts, as you do to mine. You expose a curious insularity, however, when you say empirically that Canadians wouldn't care about what you think anymore than Americans would care about my opinions.

How do you know that, Jim? Are you now doing the thinking for all American forum members? I have wonderfully engaging correspondence with members in North America and overseas. As a compatriot, I care about what happens to the United States. Canada is as joined as Siamese twins, culturally, economically, socially and militarily. I worked there. My relatives live there.

There's a saying that when the US elephant sneezes Canada gets a cold. US military and economic adventures bear heavily on Canada. It's been hard for many Americans to hoist aboard the reality that the West---with US as principal proselytizer and policeman---no longer rules the roost. Interdependent diplomacy and economies put an end to it.

Thanks for the smile about Alinsky coming to our province. "Provence" would be an improvement to the weather here. But take heart, I'll be there later this month and then on to the land of your forefathers.