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Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.

Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.......



Who is Saul Alinsky?


Short history and maybe not so sweet.




Who is Saul Alinsky?



Saul David Alinsky, a writer, was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of the modern community organizing movement. He is most noted for his book Rules for Radicals.

Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA

Education: University of Chicago

Spouse: Irene Alinsky

Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals



Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ?


In case you hadn't noticed, all eight rules are currently in play
Can we turn around the eight social state agendas that have been insidiously injected into our culture.




How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:


There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.


1) Healthcare � Control healthcare and you control the people


2) Poverty � Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.


3) Debt � Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.


4) Gun Control � Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.


5) Welfare � Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)


6) Education � Take control of what people read and listen to � take control of what children learn in school.


7) Religion � Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools


8) Class Warfare � Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?


Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S. It may be too late to reverse the decline.


Wake up people, it�s here already!

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Jim, what's your source for the alleged rules in Rules for Radicals? There' isn't a community development worker anywhere who doesn't know of Alinsky and what he stood for. What you've written is a long way from his philosophy and work. I urge members to google Wikipedia for his biography and Rules for Radicals. He was an organizational genius of an America by and for the people.

This was provided by an attorney acquaintence of mine and yes I know what snopes the left wing apologist has to say about it. The publication may be apocryphal but in actually and IMO Alinsky was a socialist POS.
Jim

The concept that the Cold War ever ended is preposterous. The ideology indoctrinated into the American Left is the same now as it was in the 1930's, it's just that the extreme, anti constitutionalists are now in power. Once control of public education was accomplished in the 1970's, these religious statists were free to indoctrinate their totalitarian, sociopathic, unconstitutional, faith-based beliefs into american society as a whole. We now have a statist religious theocracy in control of our government. Our society is divided into two camps, the "Righteous Victim" statist religious class, entitled to other peoples wealth and freedom through an involuntary exchange of goods and services (slavery) and the Free Market class, those with the temerity to actually believe that all men are equal and that individual freedom is protected under the Constitution. Here's an oldie but a goodie, very relevant today.

Alinsky was simply one of many statist, religious, sociopathic, unconstitutional, ideologues championed by the current crop of Religious Statists. That's why there is no "War on Religion", but a "War of Religion" going on in America today.

http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

Liberal Rules:

You exempt yourself from your attacks on America: Ever notice that liberals don�t include themselves in their attacks on America? When they say, �This is a racist country,� or �,This is a mean country,� they certainly aren�t referring to themselves or people who hold their views. Even though liberals supported the KKK, slaughtering the Indians, and putting the Japanese in internment camps, when they criticize those things, it�s meant as an attack on everyone else EXCEPT LIBERALS. The only thing a liberal believes he can truly do wrong is to be insufficiently liberal


Do we actually know someone like this??

Saul David Alinsky was a good one. Many Jewish people love socialism and communism.

Jim, a friend who leads you down the garden path isn't a friend. The US needs more Alinskys to protect peoples' rights. Here's Wikipedia on Alinsky Rules and partisan stripes:

"In Rules for Radicals (his final work, published in 1971 one year before his death), Alinsky addressed the 1960s generation of radicals, outlining his views on organizing for mass power. In the opening paragraph Alinsky writes,
What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away."

Alinsky did not join political parties. When asked during an interview whether he ever considered becoming a Communist party member, he replied:
Not at any time. I've never joined any organization�not even the ones I've organized myself. I prize my own independence too much. And philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology, whether it's Christianity or Marxism. One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're right.' If you don't have that, if you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated. The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by such religious and political and racial fanatics, from the persecutions of the Inquisition on down to Communist purges and Nazi genocide."

To call him a POS says more about you and your attorney friend than Alinsky's citizenship. Posting blatantly spurious claims does nothing for the credibility of your notions of the "main stream media." Who is Saul Alinsky is a disservice to all members here. Even the great conservative Bill Buckley, who I admired, had good words for him.

I'll repeat myself Alinsky was a Libtard POS. There is NO proof either way that he wrote or didn't write all or part of the above so I'll let it go at that.
Apparently you are an "authority" on Alinsky so I expect he was one of your early heros.
Wikipedia is as leftist as Snopes so I rarely pay much attention to what's posted there either.
If his influence on Obama and MS Clinton is any indication he's one of the most negative and unfortunate influences we've ever had.
King you're always quick to try and discredit any conservative but you'd have some credibility if you use the same criteria for your Libtard brethren.

This is nonsense, Jim. I'm a liberal in a country managed by a conservative federal government. I criticize racism, patronage, bad policy and other burdens of society as a Canadian citizen, as citizens are obliged everywhere to do. All citizens are responsible for the societies they live in. Conservatives think similarly.

You believe those who don't think as you do are enemies, a consequence of which is a a poisonously polarized dysfunctional federal government preventing a magnificent country lauded for its generosity, sacrifice and leadership from doing the things it is capable of doing. Unreasonable enmity appears to please you.

My conservative and liberal friends work shoulder-to-shoulder for policies they favour regardless which party is "in." It's how the gun registry was changed, and reforms made in government policy. We don't believe higher-ups have all the answers; how could they? I'll be working for a Conservative MP with his eyes on the federal party leadership.

It's more fun, Jim, than fulminating about sulphur and goblins.

Jim, I never voted Liberal in my life. Last fall I completed a successful knock-down of the Liberal party leader, posted on our organization's website before the provincial election in which he became premier. Next Wednesday we're meeting to familiarize him with strategies to meet his objectives.

Obama and Clinton on evidence are clearly beneficiaries of Alinsky's organizing genius. Republicans acknowledge they were out-gunned, out-manoeuvered and over-run by Obama, particularly with social media, and there are indications Republicans have become late coverts to his/Alinsky's playbook.

And, Jim, there is proof that Alinsky wrote Rules for Radicals. And, yes, I owe Alinsky. Our organization of rural folk in a disadvantaged region couldn't have become the most successful and influential of its kind without knowing how to bring wide and competing interests together for a common goal. The Republican Party could learn from us.

Making it drink is another thing entirely.