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First my Bona Fides:

I think the Bible condemns homosexuality

I think Phil was in his rights to condemn it.

But it is not the government's business to police what two consenting adults want to do in the bedroom.

When an adult, priest or otherwise, molests a child that is rape and it is criminal. The child is not mature enough to consent. The pedophile is preying on the inexperience and lower status of the child, the pedophile is an authority to the child. Any adult that molests a child is a criminal.

I doubt if you'll get much disagreement with your position here Mike.
The problem is that while I firmly believe this is the same opinion you stated above that the vast majority of Americans hold it will get scant play from the "mainstream news media" which is under extreme leftist control in this Country.
Until we forge ahead and re-take control and drive these scum, as led by Obama, back under the rocks they surfaced from we will continue to have to contend with their evilness.
Jim

Honestly cback, I think a dog humping a human leg is some built in instinctive 'thing' that some dogs do. I think it's somehow wired in with the mating ritual, but it certainly won't help the pup procreate. There's gotta be some study of leg hounds out there that burned good taxpayer money in the name of science.

Anyway, very well could be that the homosexual human does not get to 'choose'. What I was getting at is, who chose for you (meaning anyone of pc correctness) to so vigorously defend this particular topic. It's not that it's right wrong or indifferent, there's a cultural reflexive support for the topic when it's admitted to be such a tiny part of the real world.

Mentioned before, why don't 93% of all humans with a pulse just jump up and say homosexuality is wrong. Then, the discussion starts to see if maybe there's a place in society to be tolerant of the few who're 'not hurting anyone'. Equality doesn't stop at one gay guy is the equal of one straight guy. The argument is, the '7%' is the equal of the 93%.

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"Mentioned before, why don't 93% of all humans with a pulse just jump up and say homosexuality is wrong.:

Because the overwhelming percentage of the majority consists of those who don't want to get involved. They would rather stay on the sidelines and not put themselves in the position where someone would take them on and disagree with them.
Let's face it: In todays society most people would rather stay out of the line of fire in controversy. We have a nation of wimps and if this doesn't change we'll have a nation of small minorities calling all the shots.

FOR CHRISTS SAKE AMERICA WAKE UP!!

Call them what you want but they are still QUEERS and a queer's rights end when they violate MY rights. My wish and RIGHT is to NOT be exposed to the filthy pigs.

Actually BHD, the most commonly accepted explanation for pedophilia right now is childhood experiences ie abuse.

Bullshit. They still know the difference between right and wrong.

First to Jim's post. Jim, I knew the overwhelming majority here would be as they are and that my position would be the difficult one. But it's not that hard to stand up and voice an opinion, especially when one can feel it's well founded on research and facts rather than prejudice and hatred.

Craig, it was the part of your comment that connected the recipient of the humping into advocating for bestiality that I thought was a ridiculous stretch. Because it is.

Why me? Because I want to, that's why.

Because blind ignorance is just that...blind and ignorant, whether it comes from the left or the right. It seems both Jim and Stan can hold true to their Christian beliefs, condemn the sin and have compassion for the man. Something many professed Christians on here seem to have difficulty with. Yet that is also at the core of what Christ asks us to do. Not all of what He asks, but pretty central.

Why me? Because we spend a lot of time here bashing ignorant and stupid thinking by the left, with good reason. I like to bash stupid thinking from wherever it comes. As you said before, while we all may exhibit some level of hypocrisy, I try to keep mine to a minimum.

I got a PM today from someone, in essence congratulating me for taking on this subject here and indirectly suggesting I may not be the conservative I seem from my posts. My response was that I think anyone who truly contemplates their own life and how they can both best fit in and contribute to society has difficulty being either a stereotypical conservative or liberal. They are outdated labels. Along with black and white, life is shaded. It has nuances.

What I do know is if I am ever called to account by my maker, I'll be able to, figuratively, stand tall, look him in the eye and feel confident I lived a good life. I don't crap on people because I can. I crap on them when they deserve it.

JRB, like many people, you confuse causality with acceptance or forgiveness.

You also seem to have some difficulty understanding what a "right" is.

Knowing the area you live, North Dakota, I also suspect that you rarely encounter, in your day to day life, the horrific-ness of a queer, except perhaps on TV. So, while it demeans the concept of rights to suggest that you have a right not to be exposed to queers, I expect that "right" is rarely infringed. Anyone who is queer typically gets the hell out of Dodge as soon as they can.

The first time that right of mine was infringed upon was in 1978 when I took my WOMAN out for a drink after supper and we saw two queers going at it. The only thing that kept me from puking and my temper reaching the berserk level was my WOMAN getting me the hell out of there.