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PeteM #34601 04/07/07 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: PeteM

Well the one engraver that I can name for sure is Albert E. Spangler who appears to have started working for Lefever in 1887 at the Syracuse plant.


Elliot briefly mentions Jacob Glahn and possibly his sons; A.E. Spangler and perhaps his brother Wilton; L. Delunsch; R.A. Arthur; possibly Frank Mason and sons Roy and Max; and R. Kornbrath. The Syracuse city directory shows at least 20 engravers, circa 1888. There were a number of gun makers in operation there as well other businesses that would have employed engravers. How many DM Lefever employed at any one time is unclear.

Elliot talks about every other feature of the Lefever guns and never mentions the step, at least that I can find. The earliest photo of a step is a Nichols & Lefever hammer gun. The partnership lasted from 1876-79. The lowest grade there is a photo of with the step is a C grade.

Also, the radius seems to change without rhyme or reason. I prefer the radius of the "acorn gun" as well.

On some of the Optimus guns, there is a circular horn insert with an ivory pin in the middle. Elliot states that was an attempt to prevent the wood from cracking as it did on the LC Smith's. Whether he has documentation for that or it is his opinion is unclear.

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My "C" grade has triangular horn inserts behind the lockplates where the wood makes it's transition from flat to rounded. I have an "E" grade trap or pigeon gun that has ivory dots behind the plates. these are factory and not an attempt to hide a "pin". There may be something to Uncle Dan's theory about stress relief and checking in this area as neither of these guns shows any sign of checking, whereas I have seen quite a few lesser grade lefevers that have developed a slight check in this area. It is almost never a real crack as L.C.s develop.
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I am with Chuck on the steps, I think they look great and add to the gun.

Thanks, Jeff G.

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gil;
Not sure what slot you are referring to. Only slot I see is the slot in screw head of lock plate screw. The cocking indicators are round pins which protrude when gun is cocked. The indicators in these views can be seen either in or just above the oval in engraving scenes, above the dogs. In one view the upper edge of the oval incorporates the indicator pin. On some is just above & on others inside, depending upon size of the oval.


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