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Sure is slow around here ;-).

I am interested in learning about any items that members here my have that are marked,

A.O. NIEDNER
MALDEN, MASS.

I'm looking for different case making and bullet making dies that I don't have. I am more interested in learning about them than acquiring them. Also any that are for sale I sure would be interested.

When in Malden Niedner made several cartridges such as the .25 High-Power (Krag case necked to .25 caliber) there are many different types of these, some for base-band bullets others for a full groove diameter bullet. There was also a line of .22 High-power cartridges namely the .32-40 necked to .22 and the .28-30 necked to .22 & .23.

Along with the case making dies there were bullet making dies which I am also interest in.

All these dies are for use with a arbor press, they are many times mistakenly called "Pound Dies" they should never be hit with anything.

Some this stuff was made in Dowagiac, the majority were straight line bullet seating dies.


If folks would like to know what they have I can send some cerrosafe and you can send me back the cast.

A few of the case and bullet dies from my collection.

Michael,

For those who may be puzzled by the notation "Hamburg Tools", you might want to give a short explanation of the "Hamburg rifle".

Niedner made two Mann-Niedner 1912 (two locking lugs) rifles and three Mann-Niedner 1913 (Screw bolt locking lug)rifles.

The very first one was a 1912 that Niedner made and used. On a woodchuck hunt Niedner had to carry a woodchuck back using both hands and Dr. Baker said "That's a Hamburger making rifle" known from then on as the Hamburg rifle.


The Hamburg rifle,

Michael, To own or even possess such items makes you one very lucky S.O.B. and I mean that in the very nicest possible way. I can only dream of owning even a single tool like those you have shown.

Harry

Michael,
That scope mount is interesting. Can you comment on it. It looks like a backwards mounted Winchester A5 or perhaps a B series but the foot of the mount and the locking lever etc, are all quite unique. Did he make these too?

This is a tool-room or unfinished 1913 action with gauges and chamber cutaways.

A few years ago I tracked down all the owners of the five Mann-Niedner rifles, made a booklet of the information I had on each and sent them each a copy.

This is the second 1912 rifle left as a barreled action until Niedner gave it or sold it to Gerald Kelver. Kelver made a stock for it and then sold it. I understood that the stock was ugly and the new owner sent it Tom Shelhamer.

The rifle has a built in Mann-Niedner scope mount taper. I as well think the mount is on backward. I believe that it needs to be turned on the mount if possible, most have two screws that you could get backwards.