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Glass door guncabinet, art is to be seen.
My son and daughter's big dogs are dropped off everyday, as we babysit 'em while they work, plus our own three Labs.
I feel safe enuff!

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If you were, you'd have less guns.

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I like a gun safe. Concealed and backed with an ADT alarm system. I'm just that way.

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I hate gun safes, but I own and use the best one I could afford, for the reasons mentioned by others. It's kind of like art museums not allowing anyone inside. In addition, I have put more nicks in the wood of my nice guns taking them in and out of the safe than I have using them (I know, I need another safe). That said, my choice would be a secure room with no windows. Then I wouldn't even need a cabinet. What constitutes a secure room means different things to different people. Anything can be broken into with enough time, effort, and the right tools. A burglar who does not know that you have valuable guns to steal probably won't come to your home with the right tools to break into a relatively minimum security room in a reasonable amount of time. One who knows what he is after and what he's up against will come prepared, and given enough time, will score. It's about security, insurance, alarms, privacy, fire, and a lot of other issues. You just have to decide what's most important to you that fits into your budget. I know what I want, but can't really justify the cost. As for my guns gathering dust, that's one problem I don't have.


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There have been a lot of legitimate reasons given for those who advocate the use of safes and there is no denying a safe is more difficult to break into than a piece of furniture, yet a well designed wood cabinet w/tempered, hardened glass would withstand most efforts at quick entry. As BFrech mentions, the right tools will get you into anything, and a fridge dolly, as someone else mentioned, will just as easily transport a safe out as bring one in. I guess part of my antipathy toward safes, and the general run of arguments for them is that the arguments are in a sense negative: i.e. fire, theft, child entry, prying eyes, etc. We all want assurances and INSURANCE against worst case scenarios. That's ok until we begin to live tentatively or talk apocolyptically and paranoia creeps in. Prudence is one thing, paranoia another. However, everyone needs to confront life's dangers and losses (inevitable, since none of us escape alive) in the fashion that gives them an equable spirit. Finally, Lowell and I agree on one point: a good dog provides both companionship and protection.
Thanks to everyone who volunteered a response. Best, Will

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Oh I can see the average Lab "protecting" your guns. More like howyadoin, whatchagotfurme, hepyersef. Chessie? Maybe. No fair chaining your shepherd inside your etagere.

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Rabbit! we are alerted to a mouse in the next yard.
Besides, if you are at home and the crooks break in, you had better have something they can steal - other than the baby-grand, or the oils above the fireplace of your rich mother-in-law!

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Yeh, labs are great mousers. Just one of their multitude of endearing traits. You move the gun rack so the lab can chase the mouse and you're huntin buddies forever. Don't think for a moment I'm joking.

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Yeah, my wife somehow botched the alarm code or was too late one day. Cops came guns drawn, and were immediately charged by our Lab, pounced upon and licked senseless.

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These are not attack dogs, but nothing moves or gets by them without a commotion. Your safe Rabbit, doesn't wake you - now does it!

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