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I never used many of the modern 1 1/4 oz 16ga magnums. However, I did pattern them--not a particularly pleasant undertaking in relatively light guns. They did deliver very good patterns, much improved over 1 1/8 oz loads. But your shoulder pays for it if you're shooting a light double.

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Larry,

I could handle the recoil for 50-75 rounds a day, if the gun could. A Kick-Killer lace-on is nothing short of amazing. Every now and then a crow shoot goes ballistic, though. A few years ago two of my buddies killed over 200 in one sitting. That's a "right smart" of shooting with 1 1/4 oz. loads, at one time.

Interesting about the good patterns with the 1 1/4 loads. Kinda goes against conventional wisdom. Could be just that particular gun.

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Originally Posted By: L. Brown
I never used many of the modern 1 1/4 oz 16ga magnums. However, I did pattern them--not a particularly pleasant undertaking in relatively light guns. They did deliver very good patterns, much improved over 1 1/8 oz loads. But your shoulder pays for it if you're shooting a light double.

Back in the mid-late eighties I bought a couple flats of 16 ga. Federal Premium 1-1/4 oz. #6. They're buffered loads, supposed to be hard shot and copper-plated -- but maybe copper-washed? I use them in side-by-sides that weigh about 6-3/4 lb. -- one choked SK1/SK2, the other IC/M. Anyway, like Larry, I found that they throw excellent patterns.

These are 3-1/4 dram eq., so they're like the classic 12 ga. pigeon load. I still have a few boxes left. I won't use them in a light gun, but have found them very useful in my left barrel for late season wild pheasants chased up by my springers. Really don't notice the recoil.

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Originally Posted By: Stan
Larry,

I could handle the recoil for 50-75 rounds a day, if the gun could. A Kick-Killer lace-on is nothing short of amazing. Every now and then a crow shoot goes ballistic, though. A few years ago two of my buddies killed over 200 in one sitting. That's a "right smart" of shooting with 1 1/4 oz. loads, at one time.

Interesting about the good patterns with the 1 1/4 loads. Kinda goes against conventional wisdom. Could be just that particular gun.

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Tried them with more than one gun, Stan. For one thing, velocity is reduced somewhat vs the 1 1/8 oz loads. For another, at least some of those 16ga mags were buffered, which tends to improve patterns.

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In the 70s and 80s, I regularly used Rem #2 shot 1 1/4 oz 2 3/4" loads in my 60cm cyl choke barrels on a ca 1968 Heym o/u to shoot hare in Germany, as well as my share of phesants. This is counterintuitive, but the combination killed like lightening and didn't tear up marketable game.
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This is counterintuitive, but the combination killed like lightening and didn't tear up marketable game.
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I did something similar when I hunted cottontails with a passion. I used a 12 ga with no choke and 1&1/8 ounce of #4. Only 4 or 5 pellets in the forward half were sufficient for clean kills and the hindquarters weren't filled with lead.


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Good points. When I say "better patterns" with the 1 1/4 oz 16ga mags, I mean a higher % in the 30" circle. However, that may not be what you're looking for in a pattern.

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