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Geo. Newbern #339812 09/29/13 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
Originally Posted By: Dave K
Wanna bet??


Dave, if you want to bet me $1.00 (gentlemen's bet) that Iran does not posess a nuke by the end of President Obama's lame duck term, you're on...Geo


George,
the "wanna bet" was referring to gambling problem the head of nuclear command has,I agree that Iran will have that nuke sooner then we think.

http://nypost.com/2013/09/28/no-2-us-nuke-commander-suspended-amid-probe/

"WASHINGTON — The No. 2 officer at the military command in charge of all U.S. nuclear war-fighting forces has been suspended and is under investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigation Service for issues related to gambling, officials said Saturday."

Obama-and his "Muslim faith" has no reason to prevent Iran from getting its weapon grade uranium in missiles.The only one that can stop them is Israel.

BTW, great column by Peg Noonan(not a conservative)in last weeks WSJ re the "lame duck" President
A Small President on the World Stage
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303342104579099623833385780.html?mod=hp_opinion

The second takeaway of the week has to do with a continued decline in admiration for the American president. Barack Obama's reputation among his fellow international players has deflated, his stature almost collapsed. In diplomatic circles, attitudes toward his leadership have been declining for some time, but this week you could hear the disappointment, and something more dangerous: the sense that he is no longer, perhaps, all that relevant.

The president spoke of Iran and nuclear weapons—"we should be able to achieve a resolution" of the question. "We are encouraged" by signs of a more moderate course. "I am directing John Kerry to pursue this effort."

But his spokesmen had suggested the possibility of a brief meeting or handshake between Messrs. Obama and Rouhani. When that didn't happen there was a sense the American president had been snubbed. For all the world to see.

Which, if you are an American, is embarrassing'


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Dave, the US and allies have been back-channeling this "Iran opening" for years, before Rouhani's election, right down to every gesture. Neither could be pally without big blowback for Obama, and Rouhani with Republican Guard.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....the US and allies have been back-channeling this "Iran opening" for years, before Rouhani's election, right down to every gesture. Neither could be pally without big blowback for Obama, and Rouhani with Republican Guard.


Who's in charge here King. Does 'back-channeling for years' mean, we don't have the will to stop the iranian nuclear weapons program, and we're going to give them plenty of time to develop it. Seems like a win/win for the iranians and the iranians. What's in it for the US and it's seemingly nonexistent allies, maybe iran turns the screws on turkey and gets them to kick the US out and loose our base there.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Dave, the US and allies have been back-channeling this "Iran opening" for years, before Rouhani's election, right down to every gesture. Neither could be pally without big blowback for Obama, and Rouhani with Republican Guard.


The same "back-channeling" with North Korea bought enough time for that starving country to build nuclear weapons. Bush wanted tougher sanctions and liberals wanted Kumbaya and food, medical, and energy assistance for the North Koreans. Too many liberals never learn from history. No matter though because they are adept at refusing to accept blame.


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Engaging Iranians in face to face talks could be beneficial. Lets face it over the years our middle eastern policy has gained us next to nothing. Something is better then NOTHING.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
Engaging Iranians in face to face talks could be beneficial. Lets face it over the years our middle eastern policy has gained us next to nothing. Something is better then NOTHING.


Since at least the first crusades in 1095, the Middle East has been a hell hole.

Nothing works. Nothing is ever solved.

And nothing will ever prevent these muslim SOBs from killing eachother.

Our only job is to get their cheap oil, and keep them from killing US.

Now that's something!

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I have to agree with BB here. Muslims are like warts on a donkey's ass.
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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
Engaging Iranians in face to face talks could be beneficial. Lets face it over the years our middle eastern policy has gained us next to nothing. Something is better then NOTHING.


The "something" we have gotten by screwing around with Iran is 18,000 uranium enrichment centrifuges merrily spinning ther way closer to a nuclear weapon. At the same time, their self proclaimed peaceful nuclear energy program has dug deeper into the ground. Conventional bunker buster bombs may already be ineffective.

In addition, the Iranian Arak heavy water reactor may be capable of producing two bombs worth of weapons grade plutionium by next summer.
http://www.jpost.com/Iranian-Threat/News...t-summer-322093

But those with lust for Barack the Magic Negro will still insist that he has garnered more international respect and that he is a foreign policy genius. You can't fix stupid.


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craigd #340059 10/01/13 06:02 PM
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No one's in charge, Craig. The will to stop the program is there. The "how" to do it without setting off a major war is the issue. The US has provided the world with irrefutable evidence that even the most powerful military has its limits.

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